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Title: Some Apple products succumb to new 'Y2K'-like symptoms!!??
Post by: GlennSprigg on September 29, 2021, 10:48:04 am
The Missus' informed me that on the News on TV, they were talking about a lot of older iPads & iPhones Apps will stop working after tomorrow??
(I missed it, so I'm not sure what the stated technicalities are)...  So on the Net, I found this News statement. One of many, various dates...

https://www.today.com/news/some-iphones-will-stop-working-correctly-tomorrow-here-s-what-t166324 (https://www.today.com/news/some-iphones-will-stop-working-correctly-tomorrow-here-s-what-t166324)

Most older iPhones & iPads can NOT have their O.S. updated beyond a certain level. It seems that such older limited O.S. versions aren't equipped to handle
"GPS time rollover issue that resets the device's clock back to 000000000. This then prevents the device from using any apps that require the correct date and time."
Hmmm... Time will tell, what still remains working!!   :palm: :phew:
Title: Re: Some Apple products succumb to new 'Y2K'-like symptoms!!??
Post by: jc101 on September 29, 2021, 05:30:40 pm
Isn't this a bit late, there was something back in 2019 about a GPS rollover fix.  Not heard of anything since then...
Title: Re: Some Apple products succumb to new 'Y2K'-like symptoms!!??
Post by: Neper on September 30, 2021, 10:39:57 am
The linked message on today.com dates from 2019.
Title: Re: Some Apple products succumb to new 'Y2K'-like symptoms!!??
Post by: Jeroen3 on September 30, 2021, 10:45:17 am
It's tradition the alarm clock doesn't work after DST switch or software update. So I'm not surprised.

Just wait for Y2k38.
Title: Re: Some Apple products succumb to new 'Y2K'-like symptoms!!??
Post by: I wanted a rude username on September 30, 2021, 11:36:10 pm
Quote from: Jeroen3 on September 30, 2021, 10:45:17 am
It's tradition the alarm clock doesn't work after DST switch or software update.

Strange that iOS would have this problem. The Samsung and Sony phones I've had (both Android and pre-Android) always worked fine, despite their home countries not having daylight saving. It's an important feature that you would expect to be well-tested ...
Title: Re: Some Apple products succumb to new 'Y2K'-like symptoms!!??
Post by: Brumby on October 01, 2021, 01:36:07 am
Nothing to do with date issues as such ... everything to do with Digital Certificates and their expiry:
One day until millions of iPhones, Macs stop working (https://au.news.yahoo.com/digital-certificate-expiry-warning-015840743.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGr1-YX5L1C0MAbqMoTfuoCj-pS8yZmfFCVq_8f9mPxYcR5vIDShQQDsL1VndFgEtE_tpSVLoKpjPrIwsPsi2wn-kpFBUJdtGSZlw6yZ10Y5RlSHQXjksXJJYCxMrVfEUZDDBv_ztpxW01hLckpzMwIwXrbfYgPhhRvcfRxEqJDy)

Title of this is a bit misleading.  It's not just Apple products that are susceptible.
Title: Re: Some Apple products succumb to new 'Y2K'-like symptoms!!??
Post by: GlennSprigg on October 01, 2021, 07:34:25 am
Quote from: Brumby on October 01, 2021, 01:36:07 am
Nothing to do with date issues as such ... everything to do with Digital Certificates and their expiry:
One day until millions of iPhones, Macs stop working (https://au.news.yahoo.com/digital-certificate-expiry-warning-015840743.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGr1-YX5L1C0MAbqMoTfuoCj-pS8yZmfFCVq_8f9mPxYcR5vIDShQQDsL1VndFgEtE_tpSVLoKpjPrIwsPsi2wn-kpFBUJdtGSZlw6yZ10Y5RlSHQXjksXJJYCxMrVfEUZDDBv_ztpxW01hLckpzMwIwXrbfYgPhhRvcfRxEqJDy)

Title of this is a bit misleading.  It's not just Apple products that are susceptible.

Thanks for clearing that up, Brumby.  That makes more sense now!!   :-+
Will check our old iPad Mini to see what has changed...

EDIT...  It seems in the link you gave above, they stated that...
“For an Android phone’s built-in browser, the list of trusted root certificates comes from the operating system — which is out of date on these older phones,”
“However, Firefox is currently unique among browsers — it ships with its own list of trusted root certificates.”,  so I guess you wil be able to use Firefox instead.