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Rick Law:
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--- Quote from: Rick Law on September 14, 2022, 06:05:08 pm ---This pedestrians always having right of way is good and bad. It encourages jaywalking making accidents more likely.
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Rubbish.
We have no concept of jaywalking, and pedestrians have priority over vehicles. And yet, we have no problem with people getting mowed down left right and centre because they're darting out into the road to try and cross without thought.
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Terrorist acts not withstanding, folks here doesn't really get mowed down just because they cross illegally or darting in and out. Accident do occur and when they jaywalk, and jaywalkers are endangering themselves.
We are getting less civil these days. While I just came out of a cobbler store in a near by town, I saw a guy who suddenly darted into moving traffic without looking and not at designated crossing. The driver managed to stop inches from this fellow and this fellow proceeded to angrily bang on the car's hood. The jaywalker was playing chicken with his own life. Being the one that suddenly darted into moving traffic, he had no right to be angry. Secretly and in one of my "less than a gentlemen" moment, I thought: too bad he didn't get hit, it would have served him right to spend sometime on a wheelchair.
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: james_s on September 15, 2022, 05:18:28 pm ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on September 15, 2022, 04:13:52 pm ---Hahaha so previously you had to stop if the pedestrian was in danger of being struck... - That has definitely changed for the better!
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The law sometimes goes too far though. We have that same requirement to stop if a pedestrian is anywhere in the crosswalk or even standing near it and that's annoying. Even on a road where there is an island in the middle of two lanes, a pedestrian can walk across your lane, cross the island and you're supposed to stay stopped there until they have completely cleared the road which is annoying because once they've crossed your lane they are out of danger from you.
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Looking at actual traffic, few pedestrians seem to have any expectation that cars will stop for them... they typically wait until cars actually do stop. Probably a good idea, as something like 50% of drivers seem to be still using the "old" rules...
james_s:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on September 15, 2022, 07:17:08 pm ---Looking at actual traffic, few pedestrians seem to have any expectation that cars will stop for them... they typically wait until cars actually do stop. Probably a good idea, as something like 50% of drivers seem to be still using the "old" rules...
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I always wait. I was nearly mowed down several years ago at a crosswalk that had flashing lights and everything. I was about to step off the curb when a car rolled right through and I watched as the driver was looking down at a smartphone in their lap. I had just come out of a store and wished I had a shopping cart to simply let go of and let it roll across in front of the car.
Sal Ammoniac:
Many drivers can't see anything smaller than a semitruck, so smart pedestrians, bicycle, and motorcycle riders should always assume they're not seen and behave accordingly.
Monkeh:
--- Quote from: Rick Law on September 15, 2022, 06:36:52 pm ---
--- Quote from: Monkeh on September 14, 2022, 08:12:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: Rick Law on September 14, 2022, 06:05:08 pm ---This pedestrians always having right of way is good and bad. It encourages jaywalking making accidents more likely.
--- End quote ---
Rubbish.
We have no concept of jaywalking, and pedestrians have priority over vehicles. And yet, we have no problem with people getting mowed down left right and centre because they're darting out into the road to try and cross without thought.
--- End quote ---
Terrorist acts not withstanding, folks here doesn't really get mowed down just because they cross illegally or darting in and out. Accident do occur and when they jaywalk, and jaywalkers are endangering themselves.
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And yet again, nobody else has these problems. Perhaps 'jaywalking' (a term invented to criminalize people using their legs, not paying car companies) isn't the issue?
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