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S. Petrukhin:

--- Quote from: Kjelt on December 12, 2020, 09:22:24 am ---Oh yes China will definitely dominate globally in a few decades, it is happening already for years and not even with competing, they just buy companies, harbors, communities and electrical and waterworks.
So no surprise there, if you look at the history of the world this is happening since humans started walking on two feet. The artificial countermeasures for instance the us takes to cut off china from the latest chip manufacturing fabs is just a temporary setback. They now have to proof if they also can do this themselves, we have to wait and see. But wealth in the world is not unlimited, if the west goes poorer so will china have  less export and so on, so it is mutually beneficial to keep relations and wealth in balance.

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Who is stopping the Dutch from buying up companies, harbors, communities, electrical and hydraulic structures?  :)
Who forces them to sell?  :-//

Kjelt:

--- Quote from: S. Petrukhin on December 12, 2020, 09:36:59 am ---
--- Quote from: Kjelt on December 12, 2020, 09:22:24 am ---Oh yes China will definitely dominate globally in a few decades, it is happening already for years and not even with competing, they just buy companies, harbors, communities and electrical and waterworks.
So no surprise there, if you look at the history of the world this is happening since humans started walking on two feet. The artificial countermeasures for instance the us takes to cut off china from the latest chip manufacturing fabs is just a temporary setback. They now have to proof if they also can do this themselves, we have to wait and see. But wealth in the world is not unlimited, if the west goes poorer so will china have  less export and so on, so it is mutually beneficial to keep relations and wealth in balance.

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Who is stopping the Dutch from buying up companies, harbors, communities, electrical and hydraulic structures?  :)
Who forces them to sell?  :-//

--- End quote ---
That my friend is the hell of neoliberalist capitalism at its worst, short time vision, short time infividual greed and cashing. The good companies are the family owned medium companies that already exists for tens of years. They save in good times, use it in bad times and have a longer term strategy. But the so called moneymaking hedgefunds they are just in it for the short term, buy a company rip it apart and sell the good bits toss the rest. The vultures of our society.
And the workers sho all build it are left behind unemployed.

tom66:

--- Quote from: exe on December 06, 2020, 02:57:28 pm ---Has anyone tried EFM32? https://www.silabs.com/mcu/32-bit . I set on stm32 because I'm familiar with ChibiOS, but may be it's time to move on or try something new.

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I have used EZR32, which is the radio-integrated version of EFM32.

Bloody awful processor with plenty of poorly documented 'features'.     Only 4 timers on the EFM32WG series which was (at the time) their mainstream CPU.  We thought we could get away with it initially but ran out eventually.     The radio is a separate die,  that's fine,  but it interfaces over a buggy SPI interface and frequently locks up with no way to recover without a complete hard reset of the radio core (takes 50ms.)  That's not fine.   

Then there's interesting bugs with the SDK and IDE provided, not uncommon perhaps but in some cases we've taken over a day to figure out what random configuration changed and broke things.

Silabs support is next to useless if you're small fry, they don't care, good luck getting any response back from a certain FAE.

S. Petrukhin:

--- Quote from: Kjelt on December 12, 2020, 09:43:28 am ---
--- Quote from: S. Petrukhin on December 12, 2020, 09:36:59 am ---
--- Quote from: Kjelt on December 12, 2020, 09:22:24 am ---Oh yes China will definitely dominate globally in a few decades, it is happening already for years and not even with competing, they just buy companies, harbors, communities and electrical and waterworks.
So no surprise there, if you look at the history of the world this is happening since humans started walking on two feet. The artificial countermeasures for instance the us takes to cut off china from the latest chip manufacturing fabs is just a temporary setback. They now have to proof if they also can do this themselves, we have to wait and see. But wealth in the world is not unlimited, if the west goes poorer so will china have  less export and so on, so it is mutually beneficial to keep relations and wealth in balance.

--- End quote ---

Who is stopping the Dutch from buying up companies, harbors, communities, electrical and hydraulic structures?  :)
Who forces them to sell?  :-//

--- End quote ---
That my friend is the hell of neoliberalist capitalism at its worst, short time vision, short time infividual greed and cashing. The good companies are the family owned medium companies that already exists for tens of years. They save in good times, use it in bad times and have a longer term strategy. But the so called moneymaking hedgefunds they are just in it for the short term, buy a company rip it apart and sell the good bits toss the rest. The vultures of our society.
And the workers sho all build it are left behind unemployed.

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It's amazing to me. I understand the European bureaucracy, but I have always thought about the strong dependence of power in Europe on the desires of people.

S. Petrukhin:
By the way, ESP, as far as I understand, is a completely Chinese project... What do you say? What other processors have similar functionality? Only recently has ST released a processor of this type.

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