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| rich:
I watched the shareholder video and Shaun seems to repeatedly assert that the industry standard failure rate of consumer electronics is 25% without giving a timeframe and also admits that half of that 25% is due to physical damage not component failure. When asked about product lifespan, he clings to the 1 in 4 failure rate when managing expectations of how Orbo will perform, he expects the lifetime of their bit (presumably the orbo cell?) to be many many years, but the other electronics "will break". --- Quote ---If that power cube works after three days, its an exceptional power cube. If it's working in a month, it's off the freaking scale, and if it's working after 2 months, it changes the world. Will it be working in 2 years? I don't know, things fail. We warrant for 12 months. --- End quote --- So yeah, they could ship a box of batteries and if it doesn't last 12 months then you can ship it back to Stoern under warranty and they recharge repair it for you. On a less skeptical note, are there engineering tradeoffs in batteries which would give much higher energy density than lithium but with the downside of minimal power delivery or does the chemistry just forbid it? |
| bookaboo:
Cringeworthy, almost parody like. I don't think they can pull off a "put loads of batteries in a box scam" If you take a battery with an exceedingly high capacity of 19Ah: http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/d-batteries/7020830/ The average mobile phone takes 3.5Ah, you dont even need the back of the envelope to see that size and cost is prohibitive even if your target was for the battery to last a few months before running off. I think their goal is to find some rich fool(s) to perpetually bankroll "research" because sure as hell if they ever sell a product the game is up. Unfortunately there are plenty of people willing to believe this stuff, |
| suicidaleggroll:
--- Quote ---In 2007 Steorn set up a highly polished weekend-long public demonstration of their technology, now dubbed Orbo, at the Kinetica Museum in London ... The big day arrived and the demo was... delayed. Then delayed again. And finally cancelled. The device failed, and Steorn blamed it on the hot lights beating down on the museum installation. Then in 2009, Steorn's hand-picked jury of experts came out with their verdict: they had been shown no evidence that Orbo generated excess energy. Finally at the end of 2009 Steorn held another public demo, this time in Dublin. They showed off a new version of their Orbo technology ... it was connected to a battery that drove those electromagnets (which it was said to continuously recharge, but which could just as well have been providing all the power itself) and its claims of excess energy production were supported only by cryptic and inconclusive calorimetry tests and oscilloscope readings. Over the years since, Steorn has managed to convince enough of the right people of the credibility of their technology to gather themselves 20 million euros of investment. --- End quote --- |O |O |O |
| dexters_lab:
--- Quote from: suicidaleggroll on December 09, 2015, 06:11:10 pm --- --- Quote ---In 2007 Steorn set up a highly polished weekend-long public demonstration of their technology, now dubbed Orbo, at the Kinetica Museum in London ... The big day arrived and the demo was... delayed. Then delayed again. And finally cancelled. The device failed, and Steorn blamed it on the hot lights beating down on the museum installation. Then in 2009, Steorn's hand-picked jury of experts came out with their verdict: they had been shown no evidence that Orbo generated excess energy. Finally at the end of 2009 Steorn held another public demo, this time in Dublin. They showed off a new version of their Orbo technology ... it was connected to a battery that drove those electromagnets (which it was said to continuously recharge, but which could just as well have been providing all the power itself) and its claims of excess energy production were supported only by cryptic and inconclusive calorimetry tests and oscilloscope readings. Over the years since, Steorn has managed to convince enough of the right people of the credibility of their technology to gather themselves 20 million euros of investment. --- End quote --- |O |O |O --- End quote --- yep, they dont need to sell any products at all... just keep finding new investors |
| mikeselectricstuff:
http://orbo.com/ now has a shopping cart for their Snake Oil, but the charger is apparently sold out... Maybe here's the get-out --- Quote ---Force Majeure We shall not be liable for any failure to perform, or delay in performing, any of our obligations where such failure or delay is a result of circumstances beyond our control. --- End quote --- The laws of thermodynamics would be beyond their control (and probably comprehension as well) |
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