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SiliconWizard:
Password sharing is illegal? Really?

MK14:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on December 25, 2022, 08:16:30 pm ---Password sharing is illegal? Really?

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Reading this link:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-64003237

Basically seems to say that if the act (in the UK), of sharing a password, is part of an activity to fraudulently obtain services, goods or stuff, without paying for them.  Then that is illegal.

E.g. A screw driver is usually legal.  But if you use it to gain access to a cash machine and steal £2,000 from it.  Then that is illegal, and the screw driver is (in legal terms, but I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not sure of the legal terms), connected to the crime(s).

SiliconWizard:
Yeah. Meaning the title of the quoted article was, as usual, a clickbait.

--- Quote ---Warning issued to anybody in UK with Netflix, Amazon Prime Video or Disney Plus account
Millions are breaking the law by sharing passwords - after it was ruled yesterday password sharing was ILLEGAL
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james_s:

--- Quote from: MK14 on December 25, 2022, 08:33:54 pm ---E.g. A screw driver is usually legal.  But if you use it to gain access to a cash machine and steal £2,000 from it.  Then that is illegal, and the screw driver is (in legal terms, but I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not sure of the legal terms), connected to the crime(s).

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In the US you can be charged with possession of burglary tools for carrying otherwise legal tools in certain circumstances. A prybar and screwdrivers are legal to own and possess but if you're found creeping around at night with these tools in a backpack that is suspicious.

MrMobodies:

--- Quote from: MK14 on December 25, 2022, 08:33:54 pm ---Reading this link:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-64003237
Basically seems to say that if the act (in the UK), of sharing a password, is part of an activity to fraudulently obtain services, goods or stuff, without paying for them.  Then that is illegal.

E.g. A screw driver is usually legal.  But if you use it to gain access to a cash machine and steal £2,000 from it.  Then that is illegal, and the screw driver is (in legal terms, but I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not sure of the legal terms), connected to the crime(s).
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Interesting, the screwdriver, like given the keys to do it but whether the key owner gave the keys to a third party to do something else and third party accessed content without permission from the key holder (that could be against the terms and conditions) or the key holder purposely gave them their credential and password to obtain the service for free that they haven't paid for in the keyholders name without the keyholder never being present whilst using the service.


--- Quote from: Zero999 on December 25, 2022, 02:43:39 pm ---Just charging users who share extra, then cutting them off and taking them to court if they don't settle the bill is a better way to deal with it.
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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/dec/21/sharing-tv-streaming-passwords-is-says-uk-copyright-watchdog

--- Quote ---Wed 21 Dec 2022 17.14 GMT Sharing TV streaming passwords is illegal, says UK copyright watchdog
Intellectual Property Office says people using services such as Netflix without paying could face prosecution

Earlier this year the company announced plans to crack down on the practice by offering subscribers the option to add extra “sub-accounts” or “extra members” for a small extra monthly fee.

This plan, which Netflix is introducing as one of a number of moves to boost revenues as the global streaming boom grinds to a halt, is expected to be introduced in Britain next year.
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A small extra monthly fee offered sounds sensible if non family are using an account without the account holder present under a different roof than going to court. Maybe like Netflix they could do different plans like "charge by roof" or "by individual groups living under different roofs.


--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on December 25, 2022, 08:16:30 pm ---Password sharing is illegal? Really?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-64003237

--- Quote ---4 days agoThe IPO has since removed the reference to password sharing in its guidance on the government website. However, a spokesperson confirmed the legal position on password sharing had not changed - and nor has the IPO's guidance.

It said password sharing was both a criminal and civil matter.
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More like credential sharing as it isn't the password alone.
Accounts could have the same password by coincidence.
Reminds me an article about easy to guess passwords being used by many and I think one of them was "123456"

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/20/123456-worst-passwords-revealed

--- Quote ---As easy as 123456: the 25 worst passwords revealed
Wed 20 Jan 2016 10.09 GMT Last modified on Mon 15 May 2017 20.42 BST

If your password appears on this list, you should probably change it right away
‘Qwerty’ is in the top five worst passwords, along with ‘password’ and ‘12345’ Photograph: Alamy

Password management firm SplashData has compiled more than 2m passwords leaked over the course of 2015, to find the 25 worst passwords – those used by the most people at the same time.
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--- Quote from: james_s on December 25, 2022, 06:36:41 pm ---Almost nobody is going to care, and unfortunately the streaming companies are going to respond by making the legal product even less convenient than pirated content which further increases piracy, it's predictable as it seems to happen every time.
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Amazon Prime seems to already have a mechanism in place allow one playback at a time. Some years ago I was trying to compare scenes from two different movies (I believe were n the same filming locations) and a message about multiple playback and one player stopped.

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