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Substitutes for american parts thread
OwO:
This is a thread to gather up possible alternative parts & solutions for american RF & analog ICs due to the need to diversify the supply chain in face of politicization of electronic parts.
I will update keep this post updated as new solutions are added.
Note: avoid discussing politics. I have nothing against Americans but like any other business we have to be risk-averse, and recent events have shown that single sourced parts are a substantiated (and not just theoretical) risk. The criteria for a part to be included on this list are simply that it needs to be manufactured by a corporation with majority (50%) of operations not in the US, since that was the main criteria that was used last time with the embargo against Huawei, OR if there are reasons to believe that a specific corporation can not be used as part of a trade embargo.
Analog ICs
* High speed ADC
* 3PA1030 (50MSPS 10bit)
* 3PEAK - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/926.html
* High speed DAC
* GM7123C (330MSPS 10bit) - drop in substitute for ADV7123
* High speed op-amp
* SGM8061
* MS8051
* TPH2501
* GS8051, GS8091
* RS8751
* SG micro - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/280.html
* Gainsil - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/11403.html
* Low noise LDO
* SGM2028
* Power management/misc
* TP199 (current sense amplifier) - INA199 substitute
* FP6373A (buck IC) - 5V 3A SOT23
* JW5033S (buck IC) - 18V 2A SOT23 RFICs
* RF switch
* MXD8625C - spdt, 35dBm
* MXD8641, MXD8661 - sp4t, sp6t
* CanaanTek - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/11832.html
* Maxscend - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/11684.html
* Lansus (huawei) - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/11734.html
* MMIC amplifier
* TBD
* RF mixer
* TBD
* RF synthesizer
* TBDOther
* Microcontrollers
* GD32 (risc-v), ESP32, Kendryte K210, ...
* FPGA
* Gowin, Anlogic, ...
Weston:
Ah, the counterfeits thread ;)
ebclr:
At the end of this war, the Chinese will have a full line of cheap mass production components and USA will have a very expensive line on low quantity state of art chips who only US government and military will be able to buy, Everbody else will buy the Chinese ones even with a 100% tariff
OwO:
Added DACs and power management chips.
I am still looking for RF synthesizers and mixers. It is the last piece of the puzzle that will allow a fully second-sourced NanoVNA V2 and other RF test equipment. I can actually use diode ring mixers and get similar performance, but a simple Gilbert cell IC can't be very hard.
milordy:
--- Quote from: OwO on November 16, 2019, 05:23:51 am ---This is a thread to gather up possible alternative parts & solutions for american RF & analog ICs due to the need to diversify the supply chain in face of politicization of electronic parts.
I will update keep this post updated as new solutions are added.
Note: avoid discussing politics. I have nothing against Americans but like any other business we have to be risk-averse, and recent events have shown that single sourced parts are a substantiated (and not just theoretical) risk. The criteria for a part to be included on this list are simply that it needs to be manufactured by a corporation with majority (50%) of operations not in the US, since that was the main criteria that was used last time with the embargo against Huawei, OR if there are reasons to believe that a specific corporation can not be used as part of a trade embargo.
Analog ICs
* High speed ADC
* 3PA1030 (50MSPS 10bit)
* 3PEAK - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/926.html
* High speed DAC
* GM7123C (330MSPS 10bit) - drop in substitute for ADV7123
* High speed op-amp
* SGM8061
* MS8051
* TPH2501
* GS8051, GS8091
* RS8751
* SG micro - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/280.html
* Gainsil - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/11403.html
* Low noise LDO
* SGM2028
* Power management/misc
* TP199 (current sense amplifier) - INA199 substitute
* FP6373A (buck IC) - 5V 3A SOT23
* JW5033S (buck IC) - 18V 2A SOT23 RFICs
* RF switch
* MXD8625C - spdt, 35dBm
* MXD8641, MXD8661 - sp4t, sp6t
* CanaanTek - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/11832.html
* Maxscend - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/11684.html
* Lansus (huawei) - https://list.szlcsc.com/brand/11734.html
* MMIC amplifier
* TBD
* RF mixer
* TBD
* RF synthesizer
* TBDOther
* Microcontrollers
* GD32 (risc-v), ESP32, Kendryte K210, ...
* FPGA
* Gowin, Anlogic, ...
--- End quote ---
Taking advantage of this topic, you could make a topic indicating which manufacturers are reliable (following the datasheet specifications), because I often look at https://lcsc.com/ and see products of unknown brands to us westerners (even playing on google has no comments), then it is difficult to use.
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