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| Brumby:
--- Quote from: janoc on October 30, 2023, 06:43:42 pm ---They were bought in Nowy Targ, AFAIK, at those infamous markets. So careful about calling stuff "fine specimen of chinesium" and making fun of Chinese vendors ;) --- End quote --- The use of term "Chinesium" simply reflects the observed origin of this material and it should not be inferred or suggested that ALL products from China fall into this category. Thus, with the nomenclature in place, such materials from ANY source could wear the moniker. I think we can all concede there are products you can get from China that are very good. Finding a reliable source of such products is the challenge. |
| Zero999:
Tool like centre punches often go missing. I confess. I accidentally stole one from college. I think I put it in pocket, forgot it was there and took it home with me. I found it a couple of years later in the clothes draw. I still feel a little bad and use it at work occasionally. No doubt, it'll get lost one day. |
| mendip_discovery:
--- Quote from: Brumby on November 05, 2023, 03:54:48 am --- --- Quote from: janoc on October 30, 2023, 06:43:42 pm ---They were bought in Nowy Targ, AFAIK, at those infamous markets. So careful about calling stuff "fine specimen of chinesium" and making fun of Chinese vendors ;) --- End quote --- The use of term "Chinesium" simply reflects the observed origin of this material and it should not be inferred or suggested that ALL products from China fall into this category. Thus, with the nomenclature in place, such materials from ANY source could wear the moniker. --- End quote --- People would joke about the screws of Japanese motorcycles as being crap. Until I found out they make their cross head screws to a different spec than the screw drivers I buy in the UK, now I own a JIS screw drivers from Vessel and they just work. --- Quote from: Zero999 on November 05, 2023, 09:51:16 am ---Tool like centre punches often go missing. I confess. I accidentally stole one from college. I think I put it in pocket, forgot it was there and took it home with me. I found it a couple of years later in the clothes draw. I still feel a little bad and use it at work occasionally. No doubt, it'll get lost one day. --- End quote --- I have spent years using crap punches so last year I went and bought 2 Starrett auto punches and they are much better than the ones you get in bit sets that are there just as another item in the kit. I did buy a no-brand automatic one on Amazon and it failed when I needed it for a job. I have been making good use of the local autojumble to pick up random tools that maybe handy in the future. |
| PlainName:
--- Quote from: Brumby on November 05, 2023, 03:54:48 am --- --- Quote from: janoc on October 30, 2023, 06:43:42 pm ---They were bought in Nowy Targ, AFAIK, at those infamous markets. So careful about calling stuff "fine specimen of chinesium" and making fun of Chinese vendors ;) --- End quote --- The use of term "Chinesium" simply reflects the observed origin of this material and it should not be inferred or suggested that ALL products from China fall into this category. Thus, with the nomenclature in place, such materials from ANY source could wear the moniker. --- End quote --- You are indeed saying that stuff from China falls into that category - you have explicitly said it originates from China. That's very different from saying there is crap that comes from China (amongst other places) and crap that is so typically Chinese you name it after the place (even when it comes from elsewhere). |
| SiliconWizard:
Well obviously there's quality stuff made in China. Otherwise they wouldn't safely drive cars, take planes, get surgery, go to space, and the list is long. Well all know they tend to keep the quality stuff to themselves and export crap (with some exceptions, but the principle is that), that's just how it works. And they're not necessarily the ones to blame here. They're just taking advantage of it. Western countries do similar things when exporting to some poor/emerging countries. It's like China is taking us as the poor ones. That's kinda funny. No wonder things are a bit tense. |
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