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superfast (too fast?) electric scooters
Zero999:
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--- Quote from: silenceisblissfulness on April 25, 2023, 06:39:22 am ---I don't see what's wrong with good old fashioned, HEALTHY cycling? I made this comment to someone last night - they agreed. Why do we need electric scooters? Kids used to BIKE everywhere years ago...
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In those days you had a single block time commitment, and generally weren't covering 95 km. I am gradually aging out of bicycles, but in the last decade a 90km ride was a four to five hour commitment that left me hot, sweaty and too tired to do anything else for a few hours. If you are looking for transportation rather than exercise an ebike is a great option that can also add a bit of exercise.
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Most people here wouldn't want to commute any decent distance on motorcycle,. because the weather isn't nice most of the time. Personally speaking, in the winter getting warm is a benefit of cycling and is why I wouldn't want an ebike.
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you can use it as a normal bike, here the rules limit the electric aid to below 25km/h, so just pedal faster
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Sure, but for pedaling, I just prefer normal bikes though, that don't weigh 30kg. ;D
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afaict electric roadbikes are more like 12-15kg
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I've not seen an ebike that light before. It think the point is, if you're fit, there's not much point in an electric bike, unless you travel a hilly route, because most of the time it won't be providing any assistance. Heck I'm getting on a bit. I'm 41 and have had some injuries which have taken their toll on my performance: soft tissue scarring to my right leg, which means it aches, if I push it too hard and I had a pneumothorax on my right lung and I still average way higher than the ebike limit on my commute to work.
Going back to the rationale for the limit in the UK: there are quite a lot of shared pedestrian & cycle tracks and the limit is there to avoid posing too much of a danger to pedestrians. I daren't use one of those cycle tracks near where I live in the dark because it's very difficult to see people dressed in dark clothing, even with good lights, especially in poor weather conditions. I even take time off in winter, so I can get to work and back in the daylight. I once went on the road because there was a gale force wind behind me and I was going downhill, when I saw a group of people in the distance, because I was doing well over 50kmph and there were no cars around, otherwise I would have slowed down. I know there are other cyclists who would have just carried on past them at that silly speed.
Psi:
The point of an E-bike to me is for it to be fun to drive/ride, basically like you have a mini-motorbike with fun acceleration.
Pedal-assist is totally pointless to me, give me a throttle or there's no point.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: Psi on April 29, 2023, 05:10:13 am ---The point of an E-bike to me is for it to be fun to drive/ride, basically like you have a mini-motorbike with fun acceleration.
Pedal-assist is totally pointless to me, give me a throttle or there's no point.
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I don't know about Australia, but in the UK, which is where the original poster is, all ebikes have to be pedal assist, capped to 250W and 25kmph. Want a throttle? Get a motorcycle licence. Sorry. I don't make the rules and would not advocate breaking the law.
Psi:
Yeah, that law is pretty common in many parts of the world, a lot of people DIY building a E-bike ignore it and add a throttle anyway.
You can do it somewhat stealthy, so it's not obvious if the police actually check that but most dont.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: Psi on April 29, 2023, 11:45:37 pm ---Yeah, that law is pretty common in many parts of the world, a lot of people DIY building a E-bike ignore it and add a throttle anyway.
You can do it somewhat stealthy, so it's not obvious if the police actually check that but most dont.
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All is well, until you're involved in a serious accident, then they'll make more of an effort to investigate.
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