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| wraper:
IMHO dealer simply plays dumb in this case. |
| wraper:
So by the time car was sold there was no AP already :palm:. And Dealer certainly plays dumb. Note he never says that he purchased the features. He says "it worked". And in the end you can see he actually knew that features not paid for will likely be removed. --- Quote ---The dealership, United Traders, reached out to me to add some details and more information about the sale of the Tesla and what they knew of its features at the time of the sale: I saw the Tesla story blowing up on your website and a few others as well. We are the dealership (United Traders) that sold the Tesla to Alec B_____. I bought that vehicle personally, and used the full self drive on it multiple times. It was working fine. One day, a random message popped up saying your autopilot has been upgraded after a software update. Then it disappeared. I figured it was a glitch. I already had an agreement with Alec to purchase the vehicle. He did come and test drive it a few days later, and we both agreed it was a technical difficulty or bug that would be fixed by next software update. Since then Tesla has been of no assistance to him, and I have been doing my best to get him some help in this case. I sell dozens of Teslas a year, and sold my father in law a Model X P90D with ludicrous speed package. 60 days after the purchase of the car, Tesla removed his ludicrous speed package. Upon complaints to them they said he never paid for it. We have video evidence and multiple pictures of the vehicle with it. They even removed the line under the P90D. I am still shocked at these acts. --- End quote --- |
| TerminalJack505:
It sounds like both Tesla and the dealer are playing dumb to some degree. Tesla claims the vehicle was "incorrectly configured" and, therefore, disabled the features. So the features were enabled when they--Tesla--sold the vehicle but then later claim the vehicle was "incorrectly configured" and disabled the features. I have to wonder how that is going to go over in court. Unless the dealer is being disingenuous then I don't see how Tesla has a case. Maybe the dealer bought the car knowing it didn't come with the features but, if that's the case, I don't see how they would think they could get away with selling it as if it came with them. They would have to have known they wouldn't get away with it. |
| grumpydoc:
Rights and wrongs of this particular case aside, what it clearly demonstrates is that Tesla have no qualms in removing features from a car post market. That's probably not a manufacturer I want to buy from. Admittedly the only real distinction between Tesla and other manufacturers is that they are a bit further along the curve than most. Anyway, give it 25 years or so and no-one will own a car; there will be a fleet of self-driving cars and you you summon one for the individual journey that you wish to make. Way more efficient than everyone owning a car (or more than one) and it being parked, unused, 95% of the time. |
| donotdespisethesnake:
I wouldn't trust a car dealer as far as I could throw him. It's safe to assume every sentence contains some form of lie. The statement from the dealer confirms that. He is saying "the feature was working when I drove it therefore it is legit". He deals with Tesla, and also has seen Tesla withdraw features not paid for, so he already knows he is lying. Tesla provide the grey area, dodgy salesmen will exploit it. There is a remote possibility that the dealer didn't know what he was buying at auction, but salesmen don't get far without knowing the real $ value of items they are selling, so I find that unlikely. |
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