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wraper:

--- Quote from: vk6zgo on December 10, 2023, 12:26:35 am ---ICE cars bursting into flames after accidents was so rare in earlier years that we used to sneer at Hollywood movies showing that happening.
Wrecked cars commonly looked like a giant had stepped on them like we might on a tin can, but no sign of fire.
These days, it is so common that it is almost routine.

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They always burned in flames, of course only some percentage of crashes result in fire. They just very rarely explode like in movies. I've seen burning ICE car myself and it didn't even crash, just cough flames under the hood when driving near my home.
vk6zgo:

--- Quote from: wraper on December 10, 2023, 01:42:14 am ---
--- Quote from: vk6zgo on December 10, 2023, 12:26:35 am ---ICE cars bursting into flames after accidents was so rare in earlier years that we used to sneer at Hollywood movies showing that happening.
Wrecked cars commonly looked like a giant had stepped on them like we might on a tin can, but no sign of fire.
These days, it is so common that it is almost routine.

--- End quote ---
They always burned in flames, of course only some percentage of crashes result in fire. They just very rarely explode like in movies. I've seen burning ICE car myself and it didn't even crash, just cough flames under the hood when driving near my home.

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My main point was that cars burning up after accidents was rarely seen, whereas it is much more common now.
It is very evident when you have been around as long as me.

The engine fires I have seen were slow burning, looking much more like an oil fire from leaky rocker cover gaskets.

In the case of my Austin, it was literally that, causing the noise deadener on the firewall becoming saturated, plus Leyland Australia choosing to place the exhaust manifold very close to the firewall when they were determining the best way to fit an "East West" 6cyl engine in the space normally occupied by a four.
Dan123456:

--- Quote from: vk6zgo on December 10, 2023, 02:23:06 am ---My main point was that cars burning up after accidents was rarely seen, whereas it is much more common now.

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I do wonder if this is due to cars having significantly more electrical systems than they used to.

The vast majority of fires I have seen are due to electrical faults. Especially when some peanut has decided to wire up their on stereo or light bar etc. incorrectly.

Don’t get me wrong, rubber / plastic fuel lines breaking is definitely a thing and oil can catch fire (although usually not easily).

I just wonder what proportion of the ICE fires these days actually has nothing to do with the fuel.
mendip_discovery:

--- Quote ---My main point was that cars burning up after accidents was rarely seen, whereas it is much more common now.
It is very evident when you have been around as long as me.
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Seen is the keyword. These days we have video recording on our phones and the ability to share it with others. This has caused people to think things happen more than they used to. I got off facebook partly as it was feeding into my anxiety, seeing video of stuff being stolen to video from disasters around the world.

There is going to be a certain amount of sh*t stirring going on with Tesla as if does have parts of the car industry worried as it's gone from a nothing to somthing very quickly and caught a lot of people out. They changed tactics as electric cars were marketed at eco friendly loons/nerds and Tesla changed that and made it ok to own a car becuase it was fast and innovative. I can't afford to get into it so I am not overly interested but I am still hesitant at times as some people just love to spread the word of the new Steve Jobs without thinking is this actually a good idea for the rest of us.

This has been my Sunday morning rambling, I will now go find a cup of Tea and try and do somthing productive. Oooh eBay...
AVGresponding:

--- Quote from: wraper on December 10, 2023, 01:33:49 am ---
--- Quote from: BrianHG on December 10, 2023, 12:36:50 am ---4 wheel steering, the authentic ultimate version:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JXD9c3DZw8o

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That's just yet another concept though. You can implement all sorts of weird shit on those because it does not need to actually work IRL or have sensible cost.

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Cost and mechanical complexity are probably why we don't really see it much any more. Torque vectoring seems to be the preferred method nowadays, along with boosted power assist at parking speeds.
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