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| BrianHG:
--- Quote from: wraper on April 25, 2021, 03:05:59 pm --- --- Quote from: BrianHG on April 25, 2021, 03:00:16 pm ---:palm: Make that at least 250x if not 500x more processing power power required. --- End quote --- Frankly you are just pulling numbers out of your ass. --- Quote ---You are interpreting my comments at the wrong level and like Elon, missing the true requirements of a system required to out-perform a human when said human isn't making any mistakes. --- End quote --- It needs to be better than a real average human. Not better than an idolized flawless human who does not exist. --- End quote --- :palm: Again, I didn't mean there is an idealized perfect human. I meant when comparing a driving situation where a human hasn't made a mistake. Yes, my numbers are designed to nudge your brain a little to try to expand your view. But I do not expect that tiny amount of GPU and NPUs with that tiny ram to be able to assess is a pedestrian on the sidewalk is in a fight, or drunk, or of a child appears to be ignoring his surroundings who looks as if they are about to turn onto the road the same way a human with attention to the situation would know to be extra cautious. |
| Gyro:
--- Quote from: wraper on April 25, 2021, 02:33:33 pm --- --- Quote from: BrianHG on April 25, 2021, 01:52:42 pm ---They are missing the multiple abstract point of views which such a small processor can handle. --- End quote --- It's not small by any means and there are 2 of them. https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/tesla_(car_company)/fsd_chip --- End quote --- Just the right number for a driver - back seat driver argument! :D |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: BrianHG on April 25, 2021, 03:23:56 pm ---:palm: Again, I didn't mean there is an idealized perfect human. I meant when comparing a driving situation where a human hasn't made a mistake. --- End quote --- It's basically a definition of an idolized flawless human. Cherry picking some situations when human might respond better, does not mean that human will be a better driver overall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking |
| BrianHG:
--- Quote from: wraper on April 25, 2021, 04:11:25 pm --- --- Quote from: BrianHG on April 25, 2021, 03:23:56 pm ---:palm: Again, I didn't mean there is an idealized perfect human. I meant when comparing a driving situation where a human hasn't made a mistake. --- End quote --- It's basically a definition of an idolized flawless human. Cherry picking some situations when human might respond better, does not mean that human will be a better driver overall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking --- End quote --- Continue reading the rest of my post. As for cherry picking situations, these so-called situation are what the FSD must pass to be public-ally acceptable in a dynamic world with pesky humans in it. And like I said, if Elon wont address this, you better believe that there are others who are working on ways of doing so. They will be the future and they will the ones to succeed at a level 5 FSD. Just sticking you head in the ground ignoring something which can be solved leaves the door open to those who will do the work and make something better. Especially if company 'B' comes out and proves their AI can perform some situational awareness of the intent of other humans bot driving cars as well as pedestrians. |
| SilverSolder:
I'm looking forward to a driverless car with a drop-down menu in its display: |
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