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Tesla Full Self Driving (FSD) info - interesting stuff!
Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: coppice on June 29, 2022, 09:28:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on April 25, 2021, 12:35:14 pm ---When I was in England, manuals were -everywhere-. I asked around and the reason I was given was that the manual goes back decades. Nobody bought the automatic because you'd spend that extra money on other features. Or save the money, of course.
I'm wondering if is still the case and if the non-essential high-tech in cars there might be overlooked.
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In England it used to be big car automatic, small car manual, and in England most cars are small. Things have really changed in the last 5 years. Automatics now slightly outsell manuals, and their market share is increasing rapidly. With electrification, whether partial (i.e. hybrids) or full, automatics will clearly take over. Even driving schools are finally considering taking automatics seriously as learner cars.
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Where I am they now place a distinction on your licence if you didn't learn (or pass the exam) in an manual. In other words, you cannot drive a manual unless qualified.
james_s:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on June 29, 2022, 11:24:29 pm ---Where I am they now place a distinction on your licence if you didn't learn (or pass the exam) in an manual. In other words, you cannot drive a manual unless qualified.
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I wish they did that here. I think more people would choose a manual if they'd ever had the chance to experience driving one. As it stands most people never get the opportunity since almost all cars have a slushbox.
madires:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on June 29, 2022, 11:24:29 pm ---Where I am they now place a distinction on your licence if you didn't learn (or pass the exam) in an manual. In other words, you cannot drive a manual unless qualified.
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We have that already for a long time. Since last year people with a driver's license for automatics can take 10 driving lessons (each 45 minutes) and a brief driving test (15 minutes) to 'upgrade' to manual.
nctnico:
--- Quote from: james_s on June 30, 2022, 12:16:32 am ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on June 29, 2022, 11:24:29 pm ---Where I am they now place a distinction on your licence if you didn't learn (or pass the exam) in an manual. In other words, you cannot drive a manual unless qualified.
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I wish they did that here. I think more people would choose a manual if they'd ever had the chance to experience driving one. As it stands most people never get the opportunity since almost all cars have a slushbox.
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Having driven mostly manual cars I'd say having an automatic gearbox would be better. In the end shifting gears manually is just a tedious job.
What you likely mean is that driver's training in the US should be taken more seriously and the bar to pass the theoretical and practical exams should be set higher so the quality of driving skills improves.
coppice:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on June 29, 2022, 11:24:29 pm ---Where I am they now place a distinction on your licence if you didn't learn (or pass the exam) in an manual. In other words, you cannot drive a manual unless qualified.
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In the UK, and many other places, if you pass your test in an automatic, you cannot drive a manual car. They are two completely separate classes of licence. People visiting the UK, who try to rent a car, often have hassle, because the rental companies have very few automatics in their fleet.
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