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| wraper:
--- Quote from: G7PSK on May 02, 2019, 03:57:59 pm ---Might well be the wrong place,probabley the wrong page as well. There are 272.1 million cars on the road in the US last year of which 171,500 caught fire Tesla has built 300,00 cars and from what I can find online there are at least 2 fires a week relating to them. I will leave the math. --- End quote --- There were 2 fires in one week not too long time ago. But 2 fires a week is not true at all. Usually there are no fires for several months in a row, then each fire is a big news. No publicly available info of model 3 catching fire so far. |
| apis:
--- Quote from: wraper on May 02, 2019, 03:59:13 pm --- --- Quote from: apis on May 02, 2019, 03:32:01 pm ---Google has already demonstrated they are able to map the parts of the world where they would want to drive in the foreseeable future, so the need for maps is not much of a limitation. Using maps is safer so why not use them if you can? Clearly they are able to deal with some changes in the map environment or else they wouldn't be able to drive as much as they do. --- End quote --- Yow fresh they generally are? 1 year, 2 years? I've seen plenty of situations when map came out yesterday, but does not match actual road which was rebuilt differently a few months ago. Not to say, it's not just satellite view that is required in this case. --- End quote --- It's impossible to discuss this when the data isn't public. The details are still treated as secret sauce so we will basically just have to wait and see. But I would be amazed if they didn't think about this very obvious problem long before Google (and then others) invested billions in the technology, and the engineers and computer scientists who have created this technology aren't idiots either. (The real world changes continuously so the map is outdated immediately when it's made in some sense, so the cars can obviously deal with some amount of change.) |
| extide:
--- Quote from: wraper on May 02, 2019, 04:04:12 pm ---There were 2 fires in one week not too long time ago. But 2 fires a week is not true at all. Usually there are no fires for several months in a row, then each fire is a big news. No publicly available info of model 3 catching fire so far. --- End quote --- Funnily enough, even if they were catching on fire 2x a week, it would still be way below average. According to his numbers, the national average is 1 fire/year per 1587 cars, and Tesla is at 1 fire/year per 2885 cars. (For Tesla, that's calculating 2 fires/week or 104 fires/year, which is definitely more than reality.) |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: extide on May 02, 2019, 09:50:31 pm ---Funnily enough, even if they were catching on fire 2x a week, it would still be way below average. According to his numbers, the national average is 1 fire/year per 1587 cars, and Tesla is at 1 fire/year per 2885 cars. (For Tesla, that's calculating 2 fires/week or 104 fires/year, which is definitely more than reality.) --- End quote --- According to this it's more like 1 fire in 4 months in average https://www.autoblog.com/2018/05/11/a-list-of-tesla-car-fires-since-2013/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIAWmKnMzLZc1kifeclBxdibttYoe8QYTp9tZNQIGQYz1ien_c4gZdjnv8hd9WyUhQFvCGY1gLsz8dyN_OpXQ7S8X3CFHw-XSrn8trVVabPIBm3Ur70nMsGj3gd1D1UB7B---pxR4mX9fo9luFDUhmDENShOPflotJSmf4PE40wA BTW Tesla made 350k cars in 2018 alone, 100k in 2017, 84k in 2016. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: wraper on May 02, 2019, 03:59:13 pm --- --- Quote from: apis on May 02, 2019, 03:32:01 pm ---Google has already demonstrated they are able to map the parts of the world where they would want to drive in the foreseeable future, so the need for maps is not much of a limitation. Using maps is safer so why not use them if you can? Clearly they are able to deal with some changes in the map environment or else they wouldn't be able to drive as much as they do. --- End quote --- Yow fresh they generally are? 1 year, 2 years? I've seen plenty of situations when map came out yesterday, but does not match actual road which was rebuilt differently a few months ago. Not to say, it's not just satellite view that is required in this case. --- End quote --- But how much of the total amount of roads is that? 0.0001%? You also have to understand that the map data + location is used to augment what the sensors bring in. IMHO it is pretty useless to discuss all kinds of edge cases. People also drive off the road for many different reasons. Why should a self driving car be error free? In the end what counts is that less people get injured or killed in car accidents and that mobility improves. |
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