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| bd139:
People should parent their kids. Problem solved :-D I have three of the buggers. They read books, draw things and do physical activity still. They all have phones and tablets because it gives them the social advantage they need. Edit: also honestly they should teach them to use them at school as well. One of my kids schools bans them and it’s a shit show universally. The one that allows them the students do better because they integrate them into the curriculum. They are tools. Teach a kid to make things with a screwdriver not destroy them. Same principle. |
| abquke:
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 26, 2022, 08:41:06 pm ---People should parent their kids. Problem solved :-D --- End quote --- This. I tried going back to a not-smart-phone a few times (still have a Nokia 3310 3G redux around here somewhere) but an android phone with no data has done okay for me for all intents and purposes. |
| SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 26, 2022, 08:41:06 pm ---People should parent their kids. Problem solved :-D --- End quote --- Assuming they're any wiser than their kids. ::) Not quite certain these days apart from a few exceptions. --- Quote from: bd139 on July 26, 2022, 08:41:06 pm ---(...) They are tools. Teach a kid to make things with a screwdriver not destroy them. Same principle. --- End quote --- Should be. But there's a slight difference: a screwdriver never had a chance to turn human societies upside down. The problem is not quite with the tools anymore, it's the fact human societies are changing paradigms, and they are increasingly becoming "dematerialized", with no sign of the trend reversing. |
| james_s:
I've had a smartphone for nearly a decade now and I've never had a social media app on mine ever. It's an incredibly useful device, it's my camera, GPS navigator, communication device, pocket watch, exercise tracker, tide chart, weather station, grocery list, alarm clock, stopwatch, timer, music player, newspaper, bank terminal, home automation remote, to-do list, reminder, etc. It takes the place of a whole pile of separate gadgets and manual tools on a day to day basis and I always have it with me. If somebody can't figure out how to use it responsibly that says more about them than about the tool. |
| voltsandjolts:
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 26, 2022, 08:41:06 pm ---People should parent their kids. Problem solved :-D --- End quote --- I agree that may be true, say, 95% of the time but it's an oversimplification of a problem which in some cases has profound and life changing negative consequences. Even with good parenting some kids struggle, in my experience the more insular kids in particular - and I don't mean insular in a negative way, some kids just bottle things up and it's difficult to 'unbottle' it. A kid's smart phone can quickly turn from a useful connection with friends to a source of persecution, and even good parents might struggle to prevent or fix it. The same thing can happen with a computer of course but its much easier to keep an eye on things there. The suicide rate for 10-14 yo for England & Wales are given here (in Table 5). Thankfully it's low but recent years show an up tick, with double digit deaths occuring for the first time in the years 2017 through 2020 (dataset starts in 1981). Did parenting get worse in those years, or is there another factor? In any case, I sincerely hope the trend recedes. |
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