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tautech:
Better drop this here too:

hendorog:

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--- Quote from: Halcyon on April 08, 2021, 05:30:41 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 08, 2021, 03:41:53 am ---I aslo learned the importance of relying on a single email server. I was surprised at the stuff I couldn't do that relied on my primary email for confirmations etc.

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I'm actually surprised to learn that you weren't using Google Workspace or Office 365 Dave. For the sake of $8-9/month per user, you can have all of the Google services, redundancy, spam filtering and 30-something email aliases. I haven't run my own mail server for decades and it's a bit of a thing of the past.

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We used the Google suite for a while at my job, absolutely hated it since it was all crippled browser based stuff, they don't even have a proper desktop email client. When we were acquired we went back to Microsoft, which while I'm not the biggest fan of Microsoft, their Outlook for email and calendar blows the doors off of Google's clunky offerings. Google Docs is nice for shared documents but the lack of a desktop version really kills it for most other uses.

For email, yeah, I wouldn't bother hosting my own server, but for the client side, no way, I don't rent software, and I absolutely hate browser based productivity applications. They are a total pain in the ass and never offer the same functionality of a desktop application.

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Pretty much 100% the opposite from me. Goes to show no one solution will please everyone.

Been whoring myself to google full time now for 10 years. Became permanent after I found out that the cat was sneakily pissing on my home servers. That shortened the life of all concerned.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on April 08, 2021, 05:30:41 am ---I'm actually surprised to learn that you weren't using Google Workspace or Office 365 Dave. For the sake of $8-9/month per user, you can have all of the Google services, redundancy, spam filtering and 30-something email aliases. I haven't run my own mail server for decades and it's a bit of a thing of the past.
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I have Office 365, but only use it for Word/Excel etc. No idea it had other email server related stuff.

james_s:

--- Quote from: hendorog on April 08, 2021, 05:42:41 am ---Pretty much 100% the opposite from me. Goes to show no one solution will please everyone.

Been whoring myself to google full time now for 10 years. Became permanent after I found out that the cat was sneakily pissing on my home servers. That shortened the life of all concerned.

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Server is one thing, but desktop productivity software? The browser based stuff is a joke, it doesn't even work at all if your internet goes down, and in my case I was constantly logged out every time I cleared my browser cache which is something I do often at work. Since the calendar was browser based it couldn't integrate into the OS and provide meeting reminders so I kept missing meetings, total pain in the ass. Not to mention Google is an advertising company, their products are almost all trojan horses in a sense, their function is to entice you into giving them your valuable personal information. I use them for email and nothing else, if I log into a browser I ALWAYS make sure I log out immediately when I'm done.

Halcyon:

--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on April 08, 2021, 05:33:10 am ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on April 08, 2021, 05:30:41 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 08, 2021, 03:41:53 am ---I aslo learned the importance of relying on a single email server. I was surprised at the stuff I couldn't do that relied on my primary email for confirmations etc.

--- End quote ---

I'm actually surprised to learn that you weren't using Google Workspace or Office 365 Dave. For the sake of $8-9/month per user, you can have all of the Google services, redundancy, spam filtering and 30-something email aliases. I haven't run my own mail server for decades and it's a bit of a thing of the past.

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That still seems like a lot of money.

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I guess it depends on the individual but I use Google Workspace for my own private email on my own domain. It costs me AUD$8.32 per month and I have various email addresses for things, e.g,:
payments@ - Links to my bank account (in Australia you can transfer money instantly between bank accounts using email addresses/phone numbers), also used for Paypal
forums@ - Forum subscriptions
uber@ - Uber
sonos@ - Sonos

Email aliases are essentially "disposable" and I can create/delete them on a whim without having my private mailbox spammed because someone/a service has my personal email address.

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