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| Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: tszaboo on April 08, 2021, 08:08:41 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on April 08, 2021, 03:41:53 am ---The lesson here is, whilst it's great to have a fully redundant automatic backup server, it was kinda silly to have it in the same datacenter! We are going to ask Gorillaservers is they can provision one of the boxes in their LA data center, so if a whole city/state goes out the server will still operate. --- End quote --- I was taught by the back-end people that your second server shall be on another continent, with a different government in charge of the company running it. --- End quote --- It might have sounded prudent some while ago but these days, with numerous jurisdictions in each other's pockets, I don't think it matters anymore. |
| peter-h:
Also a "mirror" server won't protect you from a clever attack, where only older data is deleted, perhaps over time. One has to do several things at the same time, including a database snapshot every day or so and keep the snapshots for many months. Hacking is a big thing these days - much bigger than servers blowing up. |
| Towger:
--- Quote from: TomS_ on April 08, 2021, 06:35:03 am ---But there seems to be a missing piece of the puzzle (or at least I've missed it)... They say the fire was caused by a generator. The generators would not normally be installed in the same room as servers. So how does a generator fire end up leading to water damage to servers?? Unless it burned through a wall?? --- End quote --- From the sounds of it, I would not be surprised if the generators were on the roof. Normally I would have expected the generators to be in a separate building. But I have heard of similar issues with mission critical UPS systems failing. If you have a fire and call you call any local fire department, they will want all power turned off. They don't care about your business model etc, minimising risk to their firefighters is more important. The same goes if you call out the lifeboat, their job is to save life, saving the vessel is of secondary importance. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: james_s on April 08, 2021, 07:18:29 am ---Yes I wondered about that too, I would have thought they'd have the generators in a separate structure, but who knows, maybe the datacenter is in a highrise or something. I actually spent a night in Ogden UT once but it was close to 15 years ago and I don't think I ever went into town. --- End quote --- it's here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/119+600+W+Bldg+3B,+Ogden,+UT+84404,+USA/@41.2631939,-111.994884,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x87530c31eeede3af:0xe0843e2258f1e68c!8m2!3d41.2631939!4d-111.9926953 |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: peter-h on April 08, 2021, 08:03:43 am ---Well done on EEVBLOG for having kept good backups. --- End quote --- Didn't need the backups in the end though. --- Quote ---Also a lot of "hits" on forums are malicious, perhaps organised by people who got banned for behaving badly. --- End quote --- It's happened. |
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