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tom66:

--- Quote from: TimFox on July 14, 2023, 08:52:15 pm ---Macroscopic indications of warming: the classic Dutch ice-skating marathon, started in 1909.
In the past 50 years, the Elfstedentocht has taken place only three times, most recently in 1997.

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Another factor.  The Thames in London historically froze over about once every 10-15 years from 1400 to the early 1900s.  It hasn't frozen over since 1963.  At one point, the river was frozen over by 30" ice, and market stalls and events were held on the ice.
vad:

--- Quote from: tom66 on July 14, 2023, 08:47:07 pm ---
Page 20 is a good example:

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_SYR_SPM.pdf

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I am sorry, but what does IPCC, a lobbyist organization of climate scaremongers, previously caught in falsifying and cherry picking data, have to do with science? They are paid for pushing forward climate change agenda. Any research that does not support their agenda is ignore by IPCC.
vad:

--- Quote from: tom66 on July 14, 2023, 08:59:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: TimFox on July 14, 2023, 08:52:15 pm ---Macroscopic indications of warming: the classic Dutch ice-skating marathon, started in 1909.
In the past 50 years, the Elfstedentocht has taken place only three times, most recently in 1997.

--- End quote ---

Another factor.  The Thames in London historically froze over about once every 10-15 years from 1400 to the early 1900s.  It hasn't frozen over since 1963.  At one point, the river was frozen over by 30" ice, and market stalls and events were held on the ice.

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And before that: “The Romans introduced winemaking to the UK, in a period with a relatively warm climate. Their vineyards were as far north as Northamptonshire and Lincolnshire, with others in Buckinghamshire and Cambridgeshire” (Wikipedia)

So what we know for sure, is that the climate is always changing.
tom66:

--- Quote from: vad on July 14, 2023, 09:06:12 pm ---I am sorry, but what does IPCC, a lobbyist organization of climate scaremongers, previously caught in falsifying and cherry picking data, have to do with science? They are paid for pushing forward climate change agenda. Any research that does not support their agenda is ignore by IPCC.

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Please provide your evidence towards the IPCC being corrupt in the manner described.  IPCC is independent of governments and summarises existing research.
nctnico:

--- Quote from: vad on July 14, 2023, 09:14:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on July 14, 2023, 08:59:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: TimFox on July 14, 2023, 08:52:15 pm ---Macroscopic indications of warming: the classic Dutch ice-skating marathon, started in 1909.
In the past 50 years, the Elfstedentocht has taken place only three times, most recently in 1997.

--- End quote ---

Another factor.  The Thames in London historically froze over about once every 10-15 years from 1400 to the early 1900s.  It hasn't frozen over since 1963.  At one point, the river was frozen over by 30" ice, and market stalls and events were held on the ice.

--- End quote ---
And before that: “The Romans introduced winemaking to the UK, in a period with a relatively warm climate. Their vineyards were as far north as Northamptonshire and Lincolnshire, with others in Buckinghamshire and Cambridgeshire” (Wikipedia)

So what we know for sure, is that the climate is always changing.

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But the question is: did it ever change so fast that you can actually notice it happening?
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