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| Marco:
This is also a reason why nuclear plants think they should be able to benefit from green hydrogen subsidies. Maybe they should benefit for subsidy only on hydrogen generated when electricity spot prices are under some given benchmark? |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: connectTek on July 12, 2023, 08:52:10 am ---Totally agree. 0.03% is the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere and we contribute 3% of that ,Apparently. A poofteenth of a poofteenth. --- End quote --- That is not correct. Since the beginning of the industrial revolution the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has doubled from around 200ppm to over 400ppm (and rising). It is pretty easy to attribute that to the burning of fossil fuels by humans. And you have to keep in mind the oceans and seas have absorbed a large amount of CO2 as well to to point that the acidity of the water has risen to levels that are harmfull to sea life (like coral). CO2 emission is a real problem for all of us. |
| vad:
--- Quote from: tom66 on July 12, 2023, 08:08:54 am ---Today, you can get for £27,000, so less in inflationary terms, a Peugeot e-208 with a 50kWh battery and 150kW motor. You would own the car outright if you paid that much, there's no battery leasing option. --- End quote --- That explains why they don't sell Peugeots here in the USA! With a mere 50kWh, a trip to the nearest Costco would require an overnight stop for a full battery recharge. |
| Monkeh:
--- Quote from: vad on July 12, 2023, 11:54:05 am --- --- Quote from: tom66 on July 12, 2023, 08:08:54 am ---Today, you can get for £27,000, so less in inflationary terms, a Peugeot e-208 with a 50kWh battery and 150kW motor. You would own the car outright if you paid that much, there's no battery leasing option. --- End quote --- That explains why they don't sell Peugeots here in the USA! With a mere 50kWh, a trip to the nearest Costco would require an overnight stop for a full battery recharge. --- End quote --- Really, that explains why the ICE versions with 400+ mile range aren't sold there? And, as a counter-argument, the Research Triangle, as they call it, the combined statistical area of Raleigh, Durham, and Cary in North Carolina has about one fifth of the total population of the state.. all within about 50 miles as the crow flies, or one quarter the range of an e208, of a Costco. Easily time to recharge that in the time you're in the store. And just about half that population is located within those three cities, putting them within 20 miles. There's two in Charlotte (there goes another million people), one in Greensboro (half a million or so), and so on. The false narrative of everyone in the US being too far away from services and work for even shorter range EVs needs to die already. |
| Siwastaja:
50kWh alone doesn't tell you a lot, you have to factor in the consumption of the car which depends on the weight and size (aerodynamic loss). In a small passenger vehicle where 5 people struggles to fit, 50kWh is plenty. In a large SUV it's quite crappy. (Of course also depends on the use, but I'm assuming we are talking about generic cars that are suitable for 99% of users or so; even the EVs of 2010 would have been OK for say 70-80% but that does not cut it.) |
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