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| kaz911:
--- Quote from: coppice on February 19, 2020, 09:42:21 pm --- --- Quote from: kaz911 on February 19, 2020, 09:14:30 pm ---I am signed up for the new Honda Jazz Hybrid - but then the UK Government said "No hybrids" and then I dropped those plans as well. If the government is serious about that the resale value on hybrids will plummet. --- End quote --- What do you mean by "No hybrids". All I have heard is they will ban the sale of new hybrids in 2035, by which time one bought today will be worthless anyway. I think the new Honda Jazz Hybrid looks interesting as wifey's next car, but it looks like they are setting the price way above the existing model. --- End quote --- They started saying 2035 - but latest is they are talking about moving it to 2030 or earlier. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: kaz911 on February 19, 2020, 09:53:07 pm --- --- Quote from: coppice on February 19, 2020, 09:42:21 pm --- --- Quote from: kaz911 on February 19, 2020, 09:14:30 pm ---I am signed up for the new Honda Jazz Hybrid - but then the UK Government said "No hybrids" and then I dropped those plans as well. If the government is serious about that the resale value on hybrids will plummet. --- End quote --- What do you mean by "No hybrids". All I have heard is they will ban the sale of new hybrids in 2035, by which time one bought today will be worthless anyway. I think the new Honda Jazz Hybrid looks interesting as wifey's next car, but it looks like they are setting the price way above the existing model. --- End quote --- They started saying 2035 - but latest is they are talking about moving it to 2030 or earlier. --- End quote --- They are only stopping sales of new cars. Not banning old ones. The stated reason for changing from the original date in 2040 is because they realised a lot of cars only 10 years old would need to be scrapped in 2050 if they are to keep to their zero emissions by 2050 goal. They woke up to that being unreasonable. Setting an even earlier date, like 2030, for the ban of new registrations will depend on the availability of wide range of suitable affordable non-ICE cars, which is not a given right now. |
| kaz911:
--- Quote from: coppice on February 19, 2020, 09:58:46 pm --- --- Quote from: kaz911 on February 19, 2020, 09:53:07 pm --- --- Quote from: coppice on February 19, 2020, 09:42:21 pm --- --- Quote from: kaz911 on February 19, 2020, 09:14:30 pm ---I am signed up for the new Honda Jazz Hybrid - but then the UK Government said "No hybrids" and then I dropped those plans as well. If the government is serious about that the resale value on hybrids will plummet. --- End quote --- What do you mean by "No hybrids". All I have heard is they will ban the sale of new hybrids in 2035, by which time one bought today will be worthless anyway. I think the new Honda Jazz Hybrid looks interesting as wifey's next car, but it looks like they are setting the price way above the existing model. --- End quote --- They started saying 2035 - but latest is they are talking about moving it to 2030 or earlier. --- End quote --- They are only stopping sales of new cars. Not banning old ones. The stated reason for changing from the original date in 2040 is because they realised a lot of cars only 10 years old would need to be scrapped in 2050 if they are to keep to their zero emissions by 2050 goal. They woke up to that being unreasonable. Setting an even earlier date, like 2030, for the ban of new registrations will depend on the availability of wide range of suitable affordable non-ICE cars, which is not a given right now. --- End quote --- No but 2030 is only 10 years away. So if you buy a hybrid now you will see increased depreciation rates if they go through with the sales ban in 2030. In peoples mind it will have less value. And not long after banning sales - they will quickly start closing petrol stations to flush out what ever is remaining of vehicles using fossil fuels. So just wait and see. Then only people with friends on farms and boats will be able get fossil fuels. (I don't think we will have serious farming equipment within the next 10 years. You need tractors with 12-18 hour battery life and < 6 hour charge time - and fishing boats with multiple week capacity for trawling.) |
| tom66:
For applications where we can't replaced combustible fuels, that's where we need to use biofuels. Agricultural machinery and aircraft are the main ones -- I'd like to see this government invest in biofuel production, but just to make the less common applications cleaner. EVs would still be the main technology behind private and light goods vehicle, at the very least because of air pollution issues caused by the ICE. |
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