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The Electric Vehicle Future: Where is all the power going to come from?
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BravoV:
Seeing a lot of "Netherland" or "Amsterdam" words in this discussion, are these places, considered as the "ideal" reference for this particular topic of discussion ?  :-//
Karel:

--- Quote from: BravoV on February 15, 2020, 12:55:21 pm ---Seeing a lot of "Netherland" or "Amsterdam" words in this discussion, are these places, considered as the "ideal" reference for this particular topic of discussion ?  :-//

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Can you be more specific about what the "ideal" reference should be?

And why are you asking? You think it's not?
nctnico:

--- Quote from: BravoV on February 15, 2020, 12:55:21 pm ---Seeing a lot of "Netherland" or "Amsterdam" words in this discussion, are these places, considered as the "ideal" reference for this particular topic of discussion ?  :-//

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Yes because (together with Norway) the Netherlands is furtest ahead with adoption of EVs. So the challenges 'we' have here will pop up somewhere else too. Perhaps the Netherlands is even a better blueprint compared to Norway because the Netherlands doesn't have a large source of renewable electricity (unlike Norway where they get nearly all the electricity from hydro).
Marco:
I wonder if the underground hydrogen production by reforming in situ actually has a chance to work or is just a disingenuous boondoggle.

I just don't see how doing it in situ makes carbon capture any easier. If you burn the underground deposits with air you need to have filters which are not only able to pass the hydrogen (which is easy) but also the nitrogen and NOx (which I doubt is easy). If you burn it with pure oxygen you now have to pay for the pure oxygen production. Not to mention all the potential problems of trying to contain supercritical CO2 in the first place.
SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: nctnico on February 15, 2020, 01:18:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: BravoV on February 15, 2020, 12:55:21 pm ---Seeing a lot of "Netherland" or "Amsterdam" words in this discussion, are these places, considered as the "ideal" reference for this particular topic of discussion ?  :-//

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Yes because (together with Norway) the Netherlands is furtest ahead with adoption of EVs. So the challenges 'we' have here will pop up somewhere else too. Perhaps the Netherlands is even a better blueprint compared to Norway because the Netherlands doesn't have a large source of renewable electricity (unlike Norway where they get nearly all the electricity from hydro).

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Norway is great but by no means a reproducible example. All of Norway is atypical. A very large country with very very few people. A large part of electricity production from hydro as you said (partly thanks to the inherent characteristics of the land). An incredible wealth due to exploiting oil, allowing them to invest a lot and allowing a significant fraction of the population to buy expensive stuff. Etc.

As I said above, I absolutely don't believe EVs are going to replace current vehicles one by one. If they ever replace them altogether, that'll probably be a lot fewer vehicles in circulation, except in very particular regions (such as Norway, Switzerland maybe, and a few others.)
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