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The EU is banning 8K TV's!!!
PlainName:
--- Quote ---should have come up with smarter laws. Which move people into buying more energy efficient/economic items
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Increase power prices. Oh, that would stiff the poor and the rich wouldn't notice. OK then...
Ration power. Say, 10kWh/day.
Oh, then there would have to be variations depending on size of property, and probably number of people. And it would still stiff the poor who can't afford to flood insulate their 1920s gaff (which they rent anyway).
I don't think we can have laws smart enough to fix anything that isn't trivially black/white. Even killing someone has a number of mitigations and variable outcome. Some wishy-washy and arbitrary "that's approx too big" thing doesn't stand a chance.
MK14:
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MK14:
--- Quote from: PlainName on November 07, 2022, 02:20:40 pm ---Increase power prices. Oh, that would stiff the poor and the rich wouldn't notice. OK then...
Ration power. Say, 10kWh/day.
Oh, then there would have to be variations depending on size of property, and probably number of people. And it would still stiff the poor who can't afford to flood insulate their 1920s gaff (which they rent anyway).
I don't think we can have laws smart enough to fix anything that isn't trivially black/white. Even killing someone has a number of mitigations and variable outcome. Some wishy-washy and arbitrary "that's approx too big" thing doesn't stand a chance.
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That is not really what I meant by smarter laws. What I meant was that the new law, is designed to encourage people to use lower energy consuming TVs. But still allows, other TVs, to continue to use, possibly more power, if necessary.
E.g. (Taking Lamps as an example), strongly encouraging LED lamps, but still allowing other types of bulbs, to be bought and sold.
Rather than outright banning things, because they are too lazy (or whatever the explanation is), to do it in a more robust way. Which doesn't infringe on peoples lives and their rights.
I.e. If I want to go out and buy an 8k TV, in a years time, I should be able to. NOT banned by law from doing so, because it uses 20 watts (or whatever the amount is), more than what the EU/UK considered, sensible for a 4k TV.
PlainName:
How do you 'strongly encourage' without mandating? That kind of thing didn't work during the pandemic, and if people can't manage that when lives could depend on it what chance do you have when their entertainment is at stake?
MK14:
--- Quote from: PlainName on November 07, 2022, 04:49:15 pm ---How do you 'strongly encourage' without mandating? That kind of thing didn't work during the pandemic, and if people can't manage that when lives could depend on it what chance do you have when their entertainment is at stake?
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Designing such laws, (Government/EU funded/created Adverts), and things. Would indeed (probably) need the efforts of a huge team(s), of people. With various skills/backgrounds and abilities. So I can't when making a 5 minute (wild estimate) forum post, really on my own, do the topic justice, and specify such new laws/policies/adverts etc.
BUT, the current climate change situation, could be a very serious World/Earth-wide event, forcing extremely drastic actions. But such discussions, would be (in my opinion), completely off-topic from this thread.
Also the EU need to be careful. Because if such laws are taken to extremes. Such as banning meat (because of its carbon footprint), hugely eliminating/restricting cars, again because of their carbon footprint.
Somewhat banning flying, unless extremely important, and only for the very top people.
Severely restricting electronic items, to reduce their carbon foot-prints.
Final example, banning all central-heating and hot-water systems, to reduce the EU's carbon footprint.
It could cause significant civil unrest.
How far and what steps, the EU and the rest of the world, are prepared to take. To resolve the current climate situation, is not 100% clear or even 90% or 80%.
So it could start with vacuum cleaners by law, having reduced maximum power capabilities, and current 8k TVs being outlawed. But later mean that even basics like some foods (dare I mention meat), being seriously curtailed.
E.g. Rather big extra taxes, on sales of meats, air-flight tickets, car purchases, car fuels, and many other goods.
So I'm sort of torn, between wanting the climate crisis to be resolved and not losing a lot of my or our, current freedoms.
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