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The EU is banning 8K TV's!!!
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MK14:

--- Quote from: PlainName on November 07, 2022, 05:34:38 pm ---Yes, I am not asking you to make up some law on the spot. I am pointing out that laws mandate things. 'Strongly recommend' and similar are not laws. See, for instance, the Highway Code where there is 'should' for strong recommendations and 'must' for laws, and generally the 'should's are given lip service by many drivers, if they can even be arsed to manage that.

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Well, I'll give you an example.  Let's say the car has just been invented in the UK/EU for the first time.  But they are (rightly), worried about possible accident damage/injuries and worse.

So, there are two solutions (A and B):

A:  A new law, mandating a man walks at up to 4 MPH, carrying a red flag.  MUST walk in front of all moving vehicles, to warn other road users, of the upcoming dangers.
I.e. The so called, 'Red Flag Acts'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotive_Acts

B:  New laws, recommendations and so on.  On vehicle safety.  So that Zebra crossings, Traffic-lights, efficient car brakes on all wheels, Crumple zones in cars, seat belts, collapsible steering columns, etc.  Driving tests, public information films, on how to drive safely and handle the roads safely as other users, etc.

I'm essentially saying that the EU, goes for option A, the so called lazy option.

Rather than spending the time and effort, sorting out option B.  Which allows people to keep their civil liberties, and enjoy life to a nice extent.

Whereas option A, means you might as well walk, journey time wise, approximately.  Option A, could well jeopardize the development of the car markets.

So in summary.  You can have any 8k TV in the EU you like, so long as it has a 4k panel in it, or a man stands in front of it, carrying a big flag, that says 4k (MPH) on it.

EDIT: Please take into account.  I'm presenting an exaggerated, or extremely exaggerated view/concept, in an attempt to convey the possible issues, with the way the UK/EU, create these laws/regulations and recommendations, in the first place.  But it is tricky or very tricky, to explain these concepts.  So, please don't take this as a direct political viewpoint.

E.g. There are many, many good things the UK/EU have done, laws/regulations wise.  So it is all too easy to nitpick, because some people, don't like all of them (the laws), and can show counter-examples, where they go wrong.
tom66:
Yes, you're presenting an extremely exaggerated viewpoint, to the point of it being wrong. 

The EU is definitely more (b) than (a), almost to a fault, because some of the regulations produced are so damn complicated that you need an entire team of lawyers with engineering degrees to understand whether the regulations apply to you.

It's the UK that produces far too much broad, unthinking legislation.  Take, for example the Psychoactive Substances Bill which intended to ban anything the government hadn't thought of banning yet that could make you high.  Because that's apparently a great moral need.  After its first reading in the House, it was pointed out to the government that it would ban tea and coffee as psychoactive substances. (Needless to say the position of banning the harmless-to-others self-use of drugs is a gross violation of one's personal rights, but that's a different discussion entirely.)  Or, the "No Porn Law", err, sorry, the "Online Safety Bill", which would require ISPs to filter out content at the routing layer, because it might offend some religious parents should their little angels find themselves a little too curious. 

It's not to say the EU hasn't done (a) on occasion, the cookie law being a good example.  But they're *definitely* much more technocratic.
MK14:

--- Quote from: tom66 on November 07, 2022, 09:14:04 pm ---Yes, you're presenting an extremely exaggerated viewpoint, to the point of it being wrong. 

The EU is definitely more (b) than (a), almost to a fault, because some of the regulations produced are so damn complicated that you need an entire team of lawyers with engineering degrees to understand whether the regulations apply to you.

It's the UK that produces far too much broad, unthinking legislation.  Take, for example the Psychoactive Substances Bill which intended to ban anything the government hadn't thought of banning yet that could make you high.  Because that's apparently a great moral need.  After its first reading in the House, it was pointed out to the government that it would ban tea and coffee as psychoactive substances. (Needless to say the position of banning the harmless-to-others self-use of drugs is a gross violation of one's personal rights, but that's a different discussion entirely.)  Or, the "No Porn Law", err, sorry, the "Online Safety Bill", which would require ISPs to filter out content at the routing layer, because it might offend some religious parents should their little angels find themselves a little too curious. 

It's not to say the EU hasn't done (a) on occasion, the cookie law being a good example.  But they're *definitely* much more technocratic.

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Thanks for replying.  Point by point, I agree with what you say.
I am presenting an extremely exaggerated view point.  But the main intention was to illustrate a point, rather than make what I say wrong.
vad:
To summarize several threads. According EU bureaucrats, an ideal 8K TV would have a 4K panel, be powered via USB-C port, have a natural banana shape, not that rectangular nonsense, and display pop-up windows requiring viewers to click “Accept All Cookies” button every time new content is played.
Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: vad on November 08, 2022, 04:18:41 am ---To summarize several threads. According EU bureaucrats, an ideal 8K TV would have a 4K panel, be powered via USB-C port, have a natural banana shape, not that rectangular nonsense, and display pop-up windows requiring viewers to click “Accept All Cookies” button every time new content is played.

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[mind blown]
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