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mfro:

--- Quote from: coppice on November 13, 2022, 04:32:45 pm ---... However, the ratings are all over the place. For example, they rate the efficiency of chest and vertical freezers differently. Currently pretty much all chest freezers have an F rating, so those ratings are pretty much useless for selecting a product. Vertical freezers are far less efficient than even the worst chest freezer, but their different rating scale makes them look much better.

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Not true. A quick Google shows plenty of devices available with C or better rating.
Also, there is no difference in any EU efficiency criteria between chest  and vertical.
There is a difference between free standing and built-in devices (with the latter receiving a bonus because of less space available for insulation).


coppice:

--- Quote from: mfro on November 13, 2022, 06:52:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on November 13, 2022, 04:32:45 pm ---... However, the ratings are all over the place. For example, they rate the efficiency of chest and vertical freezers differently. Currently pretty much all chest freezers have an F rating, so those ratings are pretty much useless for selecting a product. Vertical freezers are far less efficient than even the worst chest freezer, but their different rating scale makes them look much better.

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Not true. A quick Google shows plenty of devices available with C or better rating.
Also, there is no difference in any EU efficiency criteria between chest  and vertical.
There is a difference between free standing and built-in devices (with the latter receiving a bonus because of less space available for insulation).

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Interesting. I went through the web sites of some of the UKs big electrical retailers recently, looking at freezers. Most were like https://ao.com/l/chest_freezers/1/32-33/ A long like of F rated products, although page 2 of that list does ave two E rated models I missed before. Other retailers, like https://markselectrical.co.uk/chest-freezers.html, are similar.
tom66:

--- Quote from: mfro on November 13, 2022, 06:52:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on November 13, 2022, 04:32:45 pm ---... However, the ratings are all over the place. For example, they rate the efficiency of chest and vertical freezers differently. Currently pretty much all chest freezers have an F rating, so those ratings are pretty much useless for selecting a product. Vertical freezers are far less efficient than even the worst chest freezer, but their different rating scale makes them look much better.

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Not true. A quick Google shows plenty of devices available with C or better rating.
Also, there is no difference in any EU efficiency criteria between chest  and vertical.
There is a difference between free standing and built-in devices (with the latter receiving a bonus because of less space available for insulation).

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Indeed.  The EU just changed energy ratings recently, not sure how long ago.  We bought a new fridge which is 'D' rated, about 240kWh/year. Our old one is A+ rated at 255kWh per year, about 5 years old (incidentally - never buy Hisense refigeration).  Once all fridges are at 'A+' it doesn't give much room for comparison.  Compressing ratings back to 'D' and so on gives more room for comparison. 

Also, in the UK, they are post-Brexit harmonised ratings, so blame the UK gov't for synchronising it with the EU, not the EU for coming up with it ... hang on, wasn't that supposed to be one of those Brexit bonuses?  :-DD
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