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The EU is banning 8K TV's!!!
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Monkeh:

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--- Quote from: themadhippy on November 02, 2022, 05:44:36 pm ---and suprise suprise you can stll get a vacuum over 900w thanks to little loopholes,like not calling it a domestic,just like you can buy 100w incandescent lamps,as long as there rough service

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And, of course, the domestic low-power version will be in service an average of 10 minutes per week and the commercial one might be used for 2-3 hours a day.

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But for every commercial one there will be 500 domestic ones.
KaneTW:
I don't get why the EU needs to regulate this. It's infantilizing the customer.

If you buy a TV with a high energy consumption (nowadays 'helpfully' labeled with a energy usage label but you could just look at the specs), you're accepting that it'll use more power.

It's a general trend of the EU to presume that the general public knows nothing [and shouldn't know anything].
Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: KaneTW on November 02, 2022, 06:54:13 pm ---I don't get why the EU needs to regulate this. It's infantilizing the customer.
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Well, most customers are quite infantile when buying anything electronic.  I see this more like an action directed at manufacturers, similar to what happened with vacuum cleaners.  (Ash vacuums and wet-or-dry vacuums are exempt, even for household use; so perhaps the TV regulation needs to also consider use cases or surface area somehow?  :-//)


--- Quote from: KaneTW on November 02, 2022, 06:54:13 pm ---It's a general trend of the EU to presume that the general public knows nothing [and shouldn't know anything].
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That I do agree with.  I think it is possible they can accidentally made an overall beneficial regulation, like seems to have occurred with vacuum cleaners (again, as far as I know it seems the power intake has gone down on domestic devices without any significant impact on efficacy, making it overall a good thing), and am just wondering if this could be a similar situation.  I am not convinced either way, just pondering whether it could be the case here.

Of course, I don't have even a 4K display, much less a 8K one, so I'm personally not affected.
nctnico:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on November 02, 2022, 07:05:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: KaneTW on November 02, 2022, 06:54:13 pm ---I don't get why the EU needs to regulate this. It's infantilizing the customer.
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Well, most customers are quite infantile when buying anything electronic.  I see this more like an action directed at manufacturers, similar to what happened with vacuum cleaners.  (Ash vacuums and wet-or-dry vacuums are exempt, even for household use; so perhaps the TV regulation needs to also consider use cases or surface area somehow?  :-//)

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If you look at the past you'll see that government regulation (which ultimately is what we vote for!) has resulted in better products for the consumer. Companies have the moral compass of a 4 year old and only think short term to maximise shareholder profit. Just create a hype and have the stupid crowd buy their products. Without regulation, we end up with products that do us -consumers- no good at all. So all in all it is the other way around. We all vote for more regulation to make our lives better. There is nothing infantile about it; power to the people!
DC1MC:
You are the carbon footprint that they want to reduce.
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