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The EU is banning 8K TV's!!!

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SL4P:
I worked in video engineering and production for over thirty years… apart from the shift to digital,
I suspect that most viewers couldn’t tell the difference from ‘good’ 625/50 and the new high-def formats with well lit content in a well prepared viewing environment.

It’s all about the ‘racing stripes’ and ‘GT badge’ on the fuel filler cap.

Large screens are great, but did you notice the quality of scriptwriting is inversely proportional to the screen size ?

Don’t even mention HDR and compression artefacts !

james_s:

--- Quote from: SL4P on November 02, 2022, 10:26:28 pm ---I worked in video engineering and production for over thirty years… apart from the shift to digital,
I suspect that most viewers couldn’t tell the difference from ‘good’ 625/50 and the new high-def formats with well lit content in a well prepared viewing environment.

It’s all about the ‘racing stripes’ and ‘GT badge’ on the fuel filler cap.

Large screens are great, but did you notice the quality of scriptwriting is inversely proportional to the screen size ?

Don’t even mention HDR and compression artefacts !

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For about 10 years after the switch to HD I saw countless TVs connected via composite video, people had no idea that despite having a HD TV, the input they were using was only capable of SD, and not even very good SD at that. The only reason HD caught on in the first place is that it coincided with the development of reasonably priced large flat panel displays. Housewives everywhere rejoiced at the fact that they no longer needed an enormous heav box in their livingroom. Since the dawn of TV, the best selling sets by far have always been the cheapest junk on the shelves at Kmart and the like. Most people simply don't notice and or don't care about picture quality.

Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: RJHayward on November 02, 2022, 09:52:17 pm ---So, let me get this right: (SLMGTR is my new acronym, lol);
   "Freedom of choice...is just a joke; YOU PEOPLE just responding to dumb commercials, telling you what to think/buy"
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Not really.  Think of it from this angle: When did you see the (average/expected/maximum) power use of a TV mentioned in an advertisement?  Even in an online advert, which usually contain all kinds of tech specs?  Hell, even standby power, which customers are definitely interested in and pretty knowable nowadays, are often omitted!


--- Quote from: RJHayward on November 02, 2022, 09:52:17 pm ---Thinking: In EU, if vehicle is pulled over by police patrol, is that 75 inch TV, (illegal) going to be seized, as illegitimate goods ? Citation for driver (possession)?
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Nah, that didn't happen with vacuum cleaners either.  Like I said, ash and wet-and-dry vacuums were explicitly set to be outside.  Like then, the rules do not affect ownership –– you can still use a 1.5kW vacuum at home if you have one ––, only commercial sales to private customers.

Me, I do not know if this is good or bad, and can't be arsed to delve into it to find out because I don't even have a 4K display yet; just reading what others think about it, in case I want to have an opinion on this someday.

Monkeh:

--- Quote from: RJHayward on November 02, 2022, 09:52:17 pm ---"Freedom of choice...is just a joke; YOU PEOPLE just responding to dumb commercials, telling you what to think/buy"...
That's a purely cynical take on a world filled with good people, trying to parse out the situation.  Seeming like we don't get freedom; it's too harmful to others (climate), and so...Cmnder 'Smith' will instruct you on proper personal spending and what's even available.

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Taking it to ridiculous extremes, what a shocker.

This has nothing to do with personal choice, frankly. You want an 8K TV which uses 500W to do nothing all day? Go ahead and make one.

unknownparticle:

--- Quote from: tom66 on November 02, 2022, 10:25:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: unknownparticle on November 02, 2022, 06:37:25 pm ---There is quite a noticeable improvement on 4K material over full HD on my humble Samsung 42".  Thats watching on broadcast TV not youtube, I can select 4K YT stuff but only in a few second clips as my BB connection speed won't fully support it, due to the pathetic UK BB infrastructure.

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4K is *just about* at the threshold where a 50" or so screen will look better at typical viewing distance; very dependent on your eyesight (you'd need 20/20 vision after any correction to appreciate that.)  I'd be surprised if you see anything from broadcast TV, unless you mean satellite, do Sky offer 4K yet? I haven't had it for like 10 years...

I just don't see any point at all in 8K.  You'd need a 100" screen to appreciate that, and even an American is going to think that's a bit ridiculous.  Cinemas, sure?  Maybe even a home cinema projector playing an 8K bluray.  But we don't even have the transmission bandwidth on Freeview for anything more than 1080i60, and as you've pointed out, the average broadband connection is going to choke on 4K for some time (I'm feeling mighty fortunate with our 500Mbit/s BT FTTP, but I'm clearly the outlier!)

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I would have agreed with you until I actually saw it for myself, and my vision is far from 20/20.  There are some dedicated 4K TV channels showing niche programs and the quality difference is obvious. Many YT creators are now recording in 4K, doesn't help me because as I said above, my connection won't support 4K, it won't even start playing it, 1440p is about it and even then it coughs and splutters! I'm fine with even 720p though, and 1080p plays fine, it's the program material that I'm most concerned with anyway. 

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