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| SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: james_s on November 03, 2022, 04:49:31 pm --- --- Quote from: vk6zgo on November 03, 2022, 02:50:38 pm --- --- Quote from: Monkeh on November 02, 2022, 03:14:45 pm ---Oh no. Some power hungry TVs which are needlessly high resolution won't be for sale to the tiny slice of the market which spends excessive amounts of money on them. I will have a good cry over this. --- End quote --- Yes, it is pretty much like Audiophiles! Why produce resolution that the eye can't use? --- End quote --- I've never seen an 8k TV but I'm skeptical of that comment. I've had people tell me that 4k is needlessly high resolution and yet I can clearly see the difference compared to 1080p. I've had so many people tell me that xx Hz is fast enough that the eye can't perceive flicker and yet I can see it clearly up to significantly higher frequencies. I generally find 1080p adequate, but 4k certainly looks sharper and smoother. --- End quote --- Don't bother replying to this kind of argument. It always the same, uninformed that we have addressed a few times but it still doesn't sink in. There was a recent thread about hearing as well in a simiilar vein. To begin with, any such statement should come with a definite and clear statement about "what the eye can use". Let's start the fun. It's much more complex than it appears. It would basically require books of thousands of pages and years of study. For the amount of stuff that is currently known. Which is not even the end of the story. Anyone non visually impaired has no trouble seeing the difference between FHD and 4K even on a relatively small screen. No doubt the difference between 4K and 8K on a larger screen will be very apparent. I am absolutely all, 100% for using proper science and debunking bullshit, but when poor science is used as a pretext to pass as smart when you know jack shit, well, nope. :popcorn: |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on November 03, 2022, 06:24:49 pm ---Anyone non visually impaired has no trouble seeing the difference between FHD and 4K even on a relatively small screen. No doubt the difference between 4K and 8K on a larger screen will be very apparent. --- End quote --- I am sitting in front of a 4k screen showing small clear readable text. If I showed this same image at 2k resolution the text would be unreadable. For many images the extra resolution is pointless, but not for all. 4k looks great up to about 55". Above that you start to see pixels if you are sitting anywhere near the screen. You don't need 8k source material for an 8k screen to have benefits for the viewer. A sweeping curve showing severe jaggies on a screen at its natural resolution can be smoothed a lot, without filtering that blurs it, by good quality upscaling of 2k or 4k material to 8k. |
| Miyuki:
I was recently in one showroom walking by one of those microLED (not sure if it was just 4k or 8k) But it was like passing by the IR heating panel I was radiating blasting heat even at a distance |
| RJSV:
My main attention, here, is on the 'control' issues, like: 1.). You People don't know enough to make decision. 2.). We make the ban, you WILL comply. (or else). 3). You are just a stupid TV viewer, we know better. You saw some AD that brainwashed you, to think that you want 8k. 4). Now, let's talk about that Authoritarian person over there..., Yeah that's him. My point being; the energy use debate is so rife with hypocrisy and contradictions, that a person hesitates, to trust / believe. Watch the discussion around John Kerry and the private jet thing. John Kerry, attending climate change conference IN HIS PRIVATE JET! Oh yeah, and now there is a whole system just poised for that kind of 'statement'... A whole array of 'Fact Checking', to dismiss comments like the John Kerry thing. In this context, makes it hard to trust the demands to go authoritarian, on 8k, for example... And maybe bringing up John Kerry's PRIVATE JET is not fair, but I see hipocracy / arrogance, and I don't trust the whole climate warrior thing. Sad thing is, we DO need to respond, just maybe take the exploitation / power abuses as the issue gets hijacked, by various politically motivated camps. Sorry, got to go, I see a 'Fact Checker's in my rear view mirror...(lol) |
| Monkeh:
--- Quote from: RJHayward on November 03, 2022, 07:13:59 pm --- 1.). You People don't know enough to make decision. --- End quote --- The general public do not know enough to set product standards, indeed. Reality does exist. --- Quote --- 2.). We make the ban, you WILL comply. (or else). --- End quote --- Nothing is being banned. TVs are not being confiscated, nobody is going door to door to check you haven't got an inefficient device. Product standards are being set. --- Quote --- 3). You are just a stupid TV viewer, we know better. You saw some AD that brainwashed you, to think that you want 8k. --- End quote --- Yes. That genuinely is how most people approach buying products - advertisements and paid for articles manipulate them into buying what the manufacturer wants to sell them. The manufacturer puts on the market what they want to sell, not what people want to buy. |
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