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| The EU is banning 8K TV's!!! |
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| MK14:
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on November 03, 2022, 08:17:42 pm ---They have never heard of the rule to keep it simple |O --- End quote --- I bet if you got invited to one of their big meetings, and spent all day. Carefully explaining about the KISS principal. You would have a significant impact, and they would nod their heads in agreement, clap and then arrange for it to be sorted out. They'd then spend 0.5 Billion Euros, on hiring consultants and others to sort it out. Eight years later, they'd come up with a 9,500 pages in total, set of 7 massive/big new rule books, on how to operate and use the KISS principal. Which kind of defeats the whole point of the KISS principal, in the first place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle Instead of coming up with a nice/catchy one liner, explaining the KISS principal, concisely and well. |
| KaneTW:
--- Quote from: tooki on November 03, 2022, 07:42:29 pm --- --- Quote from: KaneTW on November 02, 2022, 06:54:13 pm ---It's a general trend of the EU to presume that the general public knows nothing [and shouldn't know anything]. --- End quote --- As someone who spent almost all of his career as the interface between technical and non-technical folks, allow me to express something that many technical people do not realize, or simply refuse to accept: The overwhelming majority of the general public is non-technical, and cannot (and should not!) be expected to know anything technical. As technical people, it’s our responsibility to make technology accessible to everyone, and part of that is making certain decisions for people. The average citizen buys stuff based primarily on features and price, not on technical quality and efficiency, and so absent government regulation, most people will not spend extra for a product that will actually save them money in the long run and save the planet at the same time. --- End quote --- I completely agree, but restrictions and regulations are not the solution except for life-threatening/etc situations. Simply put, if 10% of users want an inefficient high-resolution TV and 90% don't care, the 10% shouldn't have to suffer so the 90% enjoy a lower energy bill. "Suffer" in this case meaning anywhere from "not being able to get a 8K TV at an attractive pricepoint" to "yet another regulation making it near-impossible to enter the consumer electronics market, and yet another reason to never sell to consumers, ever" |
| DavidAlfa:
Sorry but Terrible torture for humanity! |
| MK14:
--- Quote from: tooki on November 03, 2022, 07:42:29 pm ---As someone who spent almost all of his career as the interface between technical and non-technical folks, allow me to express something that many technical people do not realize, or simply refuse to accept: The overwhelming majority of the general public is non-technical, and cannot (and should not!) be expected to know anything technical. As technical people, it’s our responsibility to make technology accessible to everyone, and part of that is making certain decisions for people. The average citizen buys stuff based primarily on features and price, not on technical quality and efficiency, and so absent government regulation, most people will not spend extra for a product that will actually save them money in the long run and save the planet at the same time. --- End quote --- The thing is. I think it would be a lot better, if they gently persuaded people, to 'do the right thing'. E.g. Change from buying filament, 100 watt bulbs, to getting (largely) equivalent, 10 watts (approx), LED equivalent light bulbs, instead. Using methods such as advertising, raising public awareness, of the benefits of using LED bulbs, over filament bulbs. The benefits, such as a significant electricity cost reduction, etc. Various initiatives, further moving people over the LED lighting, and perhaps other forms of low energy lighting. Instead of just (in my opinion, taking the lazy/easy option of just making filament bulbs illegal, through legislation). Then, people would be much freer, to do what they want in life, and there would still be a big move over to LED lighting. Just that filament bulbs would still be available, especially for the various reasons, why they can still be useful. Similarly, the overly-powerful law(s), seem to have outlawed 8K TVs, wouldn't have happened, if they had taken a more relaxed (much less legislative) way, compared to the current situation. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: MK14 on November 03, 2022, 09:16:42 pm --- --- Quote from: tooki on November 03, 2022, 07:42:29 pm ---As someone who spent almost all of his career as the interface between technical and non-technical folks, allow me to express something that many technical people do not realize, or simply refuse to accept: The overwhelming majority of the general public is non-technical, and cannot (and should not!) be expected to know anything technical. As technical people, it’s our responsibility to make technology accessible to everyone, and part of that is making certain decisions for people. The average citizen buys stuff based primarily on features and price, not on technical quality and efficiency, and so absent government regulation, most people will not spend extra for a product that will actually save them money in the long run and save the planet at the same time. --- End quote --- The thing is. I think it would be a lot better, if they gently persuaded people, to 'do the right thing'. E.g. Change from buying filament, 100 watt bulbs, to getting (largely) equivalent, 10 watts (approx), LED equivalent light bulbs, instead. Using methods such as advertising, raising public awareness, of the benefits of using LED bulbs, over filament bulbs. The benefits, such as a significant electricity cost reduction, etc. Various initiatives, further moving people over the LED lighting, and perhaps other forms of low energy lighting. Instead of just (in my opinion, taking the lazy/easy option of just making filament bulbs illegal, through legislation). Then, people would be much freer, to do what they want in life, and there would still be a big move over to LED lighting. Just that filament bulbs would still be available, especially for the various reasons, why they can still be useful. Similarly, the overly-powerful law(s), seem to have outlawed 8K TVs, wouldn't have happened, if they had taken a more relaxed (much less legislative) way, compared to the current situation. --- End quote --- I can see both sides here. On one hand, I like having choice. On the other hand, I have met people that steadfastly refused to believe that LED/CFL bulbs save energy, despite the fact that it's easily demonstrated by directly measuring the power consumption. I've met other people that were by most measures intelligent, yet they simply could not make the connection between the efficiency rating of an AC or heat pump and their monthly bill. Personally I would prefer to tax inefficient stuff in order to encourage higher efficiency items to be purchased, but that way nothing is banned. |
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