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The EU is enforcing USB-C on portable devices

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emece67:
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eugene:

--- Quote from: Someone on June 09, 2022, 08:05:11 am ---As I already said! So your experience was that phone(s) did have proprietary connectors in 2007. Yet USB was ubiquitous in 2000/2001. The market did not move to USB quickly or see the advantages, they bodged USB in on proprietary connectors rather than using the available mini USB. It was after 2007 with the release of micro USB that movement started and even then the EU didn't like the fractured solutions and moved to speed it up.

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What I remember is pre-smart phones (i.e. anything not iPhone or Android) having a barrel jack for charging and who knows what for data. I never used the data port as there was nothing on the phone to look at. Every Android phone I have known about used USB. For the record, I'm 61, though I do appreciate you finding me youthful.

But none of this, including my age, has much to do with my argument pages back: phones are already moving towards USB C without prodding. Whether or not USB was mandated in the past is irrelevant today. In the end, mandating isn't going to reduce the number of USB cables we need by more than one anyway. I continue to own USB cables of many types because I still own device that require them. Forcing all new connectors to use the same connector isn't going to make all of those old devices go away.

As for your comments about living in a country where we fear the government, that does not describe me. I am actually very progressive. In general I distrust big industry more than the government (though the current crop in Washington seems to have gone far off track.)

My position that is relevant to this thread is that it is easier to make laws than to change them. If we don't need a law, then I vote to not make it in the first place, then we won't have to struggle to change it later. The law in question might seem on the surface like it's going to fix an inconvenience, but I don't believe it will fix anything that wouldn't fix itself without laws.

tszaboo:

--- Quote from: eugene on June 09, 2022, 01:37:45 pm ---My position that is relevant to this thread is that it is easier to make laws than to change them. If we don't need a law, then I vote to not make it in the first place, then we won't have to struggle to change it later. The law in question might seem on the surface like it's going to fix an inconvenience, but I don't believe it will fix anything that wouldn't fix itself without laws.

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Yeah, but you don't get a vote, because it's a different continent.
And it is not just about phones. Its about that sony camera and the gaming console, the bluetooth headphone the portable hair ironing thing, the vibrator of your wife and the rechargeable flying doodad.
Besides, phones stared using the unified interface because the EU was already going to do this for a decade or so.

eugene:

--- Quote from: tszaboo on June 09, 2022, 01:52:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: eugene on June 09, 2022, 01:37:45 pm ---My position that is relevant to this thread is that it is easier to make laws than to change them. If we don't need a law, then I vote to not make it in the first place, then we won't have to struggle to change it later. The law in question might seem on the surface like it's going to fix an inconvenience, but I don't believe it will fix anything that wouldn't fix itself without laws.

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Yeah, but you don't get a vote, because it's a different continent.
And it is not just about phones. Its about that sony camera and the gaming console, the bluetooth headphone the portable hair ironing thing, the vibrator of your wife and the rechargeable flying doodad.
Besides, phones stared using the unified interface because the EU was already going to do this for a decade or so.

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I'm not surprised that you deliberately overlooked my main point in an effort to continue an argument. That's your option in a forum like this.

Edit: I've already addressed all of your points multiple times in this thread. I'm as tired of repeating myself asa other are tired of hearing me do it.

BravoV:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on June 09, 2022, 10:28:10 am ---... Australia are in the top 10 countries having the highest human freedoms.

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Two words ... Julian Assange.

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