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The EU is enforcing USB-C on portable devices
Monkeh:
--- Quote from: Bassman59 on June 10, 2022, 07:58:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: Simon on June 10, 2022, 11:42:25 am ---
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on June 08, 2022, 02:36:37 am ---New devices that don't have USB type C charging ports will be banned from the EU in a couple of years. It looks like USB-C will be the world standard in due course, thanks to the EU.
As a result, those doing design like I do will be more convinced to go USB-C from on on, rather than opting for micro USB. The directive will be under the EU's notorious Radio Emissions Directive (CE RED). Apple is protesting that enforcing USB-C will stifle innovation.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220603IPR32196/deal-on-common-charger-reducing-hassle-for-consumers-and-curbing-e-waste
Is this a case of too much government control of our technology, or a commonsense approach to fixing a problem?
Good idea or not?
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Sorry to get here late, but then the law in about 20 years too late? I mean who won't be making a phone without USBC that is not apple and who having signed up to paying through the nose for apple will buy android and be stuck for a charger. This law feels more like politicking than actually helping, we needed it so long ago that the market has dealt with it by itself now.
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I realize you hate Apple, but Apple's really not as stupid or as expensive as you think they are, and the people who follow this stuff fully expect the iPhone 14 that will be introduced this fall to have USB-C for charging and data. USB-C is already on the iPad Pro. The only question is whether the iPhone 14 will have an M1 processor (like the iPad Pro), or whether it will have a new A processor with a USB-C interface.
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Angry rant by our resident fanboy aimed at you incoming, I'm sure.
Simon:
--- Quote from: Bassman59 on June 10, 2022, 07:58:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: Simon on June 10, 2022, 11:42:25 am ---
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on June 08, 2022, 02:36:37 am ---New devices that don't have USB type C charging ports will be banned from the EU in a couple of years. It looks like USB-C will be the world standard in due course, thanks to the EU.
As a result, those doing design like I do will be more convinced to go USB-C from on on, rather than opting for micro USB. The directive will be under the EU's notorious Radio Emissions Directive (CE RED). Apple is protesting that enforcing USB-C will stifle innovation.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220603IPR32196/deal-on-common-charger-reducing-hassle-for-consumers-and-curbing-e-waste
Is this a case of too much government control of our technology, or a commonsense approach to fixing a problem?
Good idea or not?
--- End quote ---
Sorry to get here late, but then the law in about 20 years too late? I mean who won't be making a phone without USBC that is not apple and who having signed up to paying through the nose for apple will buy android and be stuck for a charger. This law feels more like politicking than actually helping, we needed it so long ago that the market has dealt with it by itself now.
--- End quote ---
I realize you hate Apple, but Apple's really not as stupid or as expensive as you think they are, and the people who follow this stuff fully expect the iPhone 14 that will be introduced this fall to have USB-C for charging and data. USB-C is already on the iPad Pro. The only question is whether the iPhone 14 will have an M1 processor (like the iPad Pro), or whether it will have a new A processor with a USB-C interface.
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Whether or not I hate apple was irrelevant. as I said people buying apple will buy apple and have the same connector on each new device, people buying android the same. This is not like 20 years ago when every manufacturer had a different size barrel jack connector and a different polarity and a different voltage, that is when we needed this law, the situation has now resolved itself and they decide to introduce a stupid law to say look how good we are - 20 years later.
Monkeh:
--- Quote from: Simon on June 11, 2022, 01:46:19 pm ---Whether or not I hate apple was irrelevant. as I said people buying apple will buy apple and have the same connector on each new device, people buying android the same. This is not like 20 years ago when every manufacturer had a different size barrel jack connector and a different polarity and a different voltage, that is when we needed this law, the situation has now resolved itself and they decide to introduce a stupid law to say look how good we are - 20 years later.
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It's not just about phones and it's not (entirely..) about Apple. Things are hardly resolved.
tooki:
--- Quote from: Monkeh on June 11, 2022, 02:00:04 pm ---It's not just about phones and it's not (entirely..) about Apple. Things are hardly resolved.
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Yeah, but let’s be realistic: if not for legislators who fall into media-driven trap of hating on Apple, they’d never have enacted this rule.
Simon:
everything today is charged from USB, most charger no longer have a cable, they have a USB socket so to say that this is hardly resolved is silly, christ, even sex toys are supplied without a charger and have a USB socket, what more do you want? Every item I have bought lately that is cheap and has a single lithium cell which most aim to have has a USB socket for charging and is supplied without a charger. Manufacturers have found themselves liberated from the cost of having to supply a charger by simply putting a USB socket on the product.
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