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The EU is enforcing USB-C on portable devices

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Monkeh:

--- Quote from: coppercone2 on June 15, 2022, 04:20:33 am ---then you just add a fast charge port with optional charger using whatever connector you want, I don't think it says exclusive, just compatible.

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No.


--- Quote ---2. Hand-held mobile phones, tablets, digital cameras, headphones, headsets, handheld
videogame consoles and portable speakers, in so far as they are capable of being
recharged via wired charging at voltages higher than 5 volts or currents higher than 3
amperes or powers higher than 15 watts, shall:
(a) incorporate the USB Power Delivery, as described in the standard EN IEC
62680-1-2:2021 ‘Universal serial bus interfaces for data and power - Part 1-2:
Common components - USB Power Delivery specification’;
(b) ensure that any additional charging protocol allows the full functionality of the
USB Power Delivery referred to in point (a).
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Berni:

--- Quote from: coppercone2 on June 15, 2022, 04:20:33 am ---then you just add a fast charge port with optional charger using whatever connector you want, I don't think it says exclusive, just compatible.

I think the idea is that you don't get completely fucked by little bitty pieces of metal

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I remember a friend having a Nokia phone that had a silly arrangement of having a USB port for data transfer but no charging. For charging you had to use the proprietary tiny barrel jack that the charger it comes with has. Why they did this i have no idea.

Having multiple connector just makes the internal design more annoying. Besides since USB-C is the current widely adopted standard means that any other connector you add would be considered a proprietary connector that is not compatible with what is out there right now.

I had to turn away people wanting to have there iphone charged on multiple occasions because i did not have the appropriate cable, as i am a android user. I did have a charger with a USB-A port that can supply many amps of 5V juice, i had a PC next to me that has one, i had a car cigarette plug charger that has one etc.. But it is no use sine without a lightning cable i can't get the 5V pixies into my friends phone.

This is why charger standardization requires the whole chain to take part. You need a charger that can be told to give the 20V fast charging when wanted, you need a cable and connector that can safely transfer this amount of power and you need the device to have the matching port and implement the compatible protocol so that it knows how to tell the charger to give it the 20V spicy pixies. But since devices go towards having just one port for everything it is nice if the port can do other stuff like USB 3.0

f4eru:
Charge port standardisation is a really good thing, and is 10 years late.  :horse:
Better late than never....

JPortici:

--- Quote from: f4eru on June 15, 2022, 06:52:29 am ---Better late than never....

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"Let the market decide" :horse:

coppercone2:
that's a serious part dependence and manufacturer preference. The little bit of metal I can understand, but making power IC specifics is crazy. I figure more variation in power circuits is better. I guess there are alot of manufacturers but come on :wtf:

this just seems authoritarian now, talk about stifling power system design :wtf:

some consortium is gonna get fat off this stuff and engineers are gonna get brain dead  :palm: the same person probobly wanted to do this with USB 1.0 and now we have something much more advanced because it was not regulated and there is competition. Who is gonna put R&D money into this shit when there is some bureaucrat calling all the shots? When is the last time you saw a company say 'hey.. maybe we can convince a international legislative body to justify our R&D". What planet these people from?

the connector is like a building code for door size, while messing with the circuit is like saying 'the door must be made of this wood or else, no other materials are allowed, and don't you dare fuck around trying to make better hinges'.

And when I think about it, its foolish of me to think that we are at 'peak interconnect' right now, there is probably innovation to be made there, its just an esoteric field of study that few understand and study, but its the easiest one to assume that its just a piece of metal. I guess i'm just angry at constantly having to look for cables.

The thing is, the most useful data is generated from users, so when you are field testing different connectors and supply topologies all the time, you learn stuff on a small scale, vs trying to make global changes. You ever fill out a global change paper in manufacturing? bedlam²

on the plus side, if someone invents a better connector, you can make this plan look like stone age fascism. Kinda like having dial up when everyone has cable.

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