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| tooki:
--- Quote from: Simon on June 16, 2022, 12:42:54 pm ---Have any of these adapters been properly EMC tested? I don't know what the standards would have done but I would hope you put a range of loads on the adapter. If they are passing tests but causing an issue well then legally everyone is in the clear and the legislators need to go and have another think about how to deal with it. --- End quote --- I know for a fact that Apple’s earliest USB chargers, the ones sold for iPods, could cause touchscreen problems on the iPhone, which is why Apple released a new iPhone USB Charger with the iPhone. All of them are absolutely EMC tested and don’t really spare any expenses inside. (For what it’s worth, I think I used the iPod charger on my iPhone without issue, but it’s been 15 years so don’t hold me to it!!) |
| Simon:
--- Quote from: Miyuki on June 16, 2022, 07:28:51 pm --- --- Quote from: Simon on June 16, 2022, 06:08:40 pm --- --- Quote from: dunkemhigh on June 16, 2022, 02:56:56 pm ---I have no idea! They are, of course, made in China so any CE mark would be suspect even if it existed :) However, I don't think that's relevant - the point was that these are examples of problems that don't result in mass complaints, so the lack of complaints can't be taken as an indicator of no issues. --- End quote --- You keep missing the point. If the tests are not robust enough then even a "matched pair" of phone and charger could cause an issue if the issue does not present itself during testing. If it is as bad as say a phone screen going haywire with a certain charger then someone did not do it right in validation. It's like saying that you cannot buy a lap top power supply unless it is the same supply that was tested with the same laptop. --- End quote --- None of the cheap power bricks are tested. Maybe some branded (Apple, Lenovo, Dell) might be, but still, they are commonly "optimized" after that point Plus you have plenty of counterfeited ones and you have no idea until you open them You can buy a charger that looks almost or even exactly the same as the original and find a life threatening mess inside. And almost every generic one is something crazy, what cannot pass not just EMC but basic safety rules --- End quote --- Simple solution, regulate imports. Why the hell do we accept all this crap from china? duty tax the crap out of it and start testing devices and banning the shit. In the UK getting trading standards to look at something is impossible and you only here of them trying to track down stock after it caused a fire. |
| Simon:
--- Quote from: tooki on June 16, 2022, 07:46:15 pm --- --- Quote from: Simon on June 16, 2022, 12:42:54 pm ---Have any of these adapters been properly EMC tested? I don't know what the standards would have done but I would hope you put a range of loads on the adapter. If they are passing tests but causing an issue well then legally everyone is in the clear and the legislators need to go and have another think about how to deal with it. --- End quote --- I know for a fact that Apple’s earliest USB chargers, the ones sold for iPods, could cause touchscreen problems on the iPhone, which is why Apple released a new iPhone USB Charger with the iPhone. All of them are absolutely EMC tested and don’t really spare any expenses inside. (For what it’s worth, I think I used the iPod charger on my iPhone without issue, but it’s been 15 years so don’t hold me to it!!) --- End quote --- Something seriously wrong there, tested or not, wasn't there a recall of laptop charger due to people getting shocks off the earth pins. No point in companies using compatibility as an excuse to sell shit when it is just shit and dangerous shit at that. |
| Berni:
It is required for these imported products to have a CE mark. The problem is that anyone can just slap a CE on it and they don't get in any trouble unless shit really hits the fan that those products are burning down houses, so they show up demanding to see the paperwork that shows this is CE compliant. Everything is mace in China these days, even the big brand name stuff. But the brand has a name to uphold so they require there products to be made to a better quality level. The no brand stuff you find on AliExpress just has to be cheap to sell since everyone sorts by price. I like buying cheap chinese crap because it is so cheap. I just do a bit of research on the stuff i buy to make sure it is not terrible and sometimes open it up to check if there is anything really wrong about it. I know i am buying crap, so i set my expectations accordingly. |
| eugene:
Ha!! https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/17/23171402/universal-charger-standard-usbc-bernie-sanders-markey-elizabeth-warren |
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