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The EU is enforcing USB-C on portable devices
Monkeh:
I can think of several possibilities, each more jaded than the last. Perhaps just that mini is harder for users to damage - it falls out easily to begin with..
eugene:
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--- Quote from: eugene on June 24, 2022, 08:33:58 pm ---Evidently, all attempts to explain to you that charging ports are already standardized has not hit home.
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They are not. There are at least three in circulation from major vendors and more legacy types in less reputable products, and absolutely no standardisation of protocol for rapid charging.
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Yet still no actual examples sited. As far as I know (because no help has been offered despite multiple requests) I must conclude that no actual examples exist.
eugene:
--- Quote from: Kyle_from_somewhere on June 24, 2022, 09:15:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: eugene on June 24, 2022, 06:46:00 pm ---Sure, there are cases where it makes sense. Some people might point at monopolies, but I would argue that monopolies are a distinct example of a free market ailing, so regulations might be put into place to restore its health. I understand that I'm expressing something of a ideology here, that a free market is always the best system provided it is allowed to be healthy and flourish.
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What is meant by allowing it to "be healthy and flourish"? Who does the allowing?
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Sorry, I thought that was obvious. The people that do the allowing are all of the people that do not specifically inhibit it.
It's that simple.
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--- Quote from: eugene on June 24, 2022, 06:46:00 pm ---I relayed the regulation to a friend that hadn't heard about it. Their immediate response was that they think it's a good idea. They then proceeded to list all the reasons they prefer USB C over micro-B. But when asked if they thought a law should be passed requiring it on every product with a charging port, they admitted that a law doesn't make sense.
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That doesn't mean anything. You found a person who'd never heard of it and had no opinion, and for the duration of that encounter you were their only source of information. They only heard about it filtered through your views. So obviously they're likely to agree with you, because you have the total monopoly on ideas in that situation. There is no room to do anything else.
You can do that to anyone who's unfamiliar with a given subject.
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I offered an example of a person who's knee-jerk reaction was was "I like USB C, so it's a good idea" before they actually thought about the consequences. It's just an example. But you are right; it's easy to find examples of many things.
Now how about those examples of battery powered devices with proprietary connectors that you want to charge in your car. I'm still waiting for those.
eugene:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on June 24, 2022, 09:30:43 pm ---Duh! I'm thinking of the A :palm:
There must be some reason though. Even fairly recent Garmins use the mini over micro.
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So vote with your money and buy a TomTom!
Monkeh:
--- Quote from: eugene on June 24, 2022, 10:23:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: Monkeh on June 24, 2022, 08:45:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: eugene on June 24, 2022, 08:33:58 pm ---Evidently, all attempts to explain to you that charging ports are already standardized has not hit home.
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They are not. There are at least three in circulation from major vendors and more legacy types in less reputable products, and absolutely no standardisation of protocol for rapid charging.
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Yet still no actual examples sited. As far as I know (because no help has been offered despite multiple requests) I must conclude that no actual examples exist.
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Amusing. What do you want me to cite (not site) here? The three common types which indicate no single accepted standard? You know what they are. The different charging protocols? Do your own research there.
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