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The EU is enforcing USB-C on portable devices
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tszaboo:

--- Quote from: eugene on June 25, 2022, 03:16:59 am ---Folks, I'm sorry that it took me so long to catch on. This is all about iPhones. I didn't see it because, for some reason, nobody has had the balls to to say out loud what the problem is. I apologize for taking up so much of your time.

So please, do whatever it takes to get the fearsome giant to put a fucking USB C connector on your next phone. I don't blame or judge.

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It's not. Can't you read? "portable devices"
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on June 24, 2022, 09:30:43 pm ---Duh! I'm thinking of the A  :palm:

There must be some reason though. Even fairly recent Garmins use the mini over micro.

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I just got a brand new Garmin and was surprised to find Mini USB still alive and well....
Zero999:

--- Quote from: tszaboo on June 24, 2022, 07:19:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 24, 2022, 04:22:55 pm ---Polemic remarks aside, the problem is if USB-C is made mandatory, of course manufacturers could add another connector, if a better standard comes along, but they're still stuck with the having to have the old obsolete USB-C connector. Hopefully the law will be reviewed and updated, if necessary, top prevent this.

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I don't see the problem. My Laptop can be charged with USB-C, which is also a Thunderbolt or the Lenovo specific charger.
I don't know how they do it, maybe they are using these new so-called dijodes to like switch where the power is coming from.
This is literally a non-issue.

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At the moment no, but how about in 20 years time when a better standard is around which can charge the battery more quickly? You might not be so happy stuck with USB-C. Imagine if they had standardised on USB-B 10 years ago. You wouldn't be so happy then, having to have an extra useless connector, as well as the USB-C.


--- Quote from: Kyle_from_somewhere on June 25, 2022, 12:37:06 am ---I don't own a car. But if I did own one, I'd probably want to charge my iPhone in there, which has a lightning connector. The lightning connector is rubbish and I'd like an iPhone with usb-c, but that mysterious "free market" thing that's unexplained but also apparently meaningful hasn't provided one.

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Then you can buy this cheap thing called a USB cable, with a lightning connector on one end. In fact, it will probably come with the phone.


--- Quote from: eugene on June 25, 2022, 03:16:59 am ---Folks, I'm sorry that it took me so long to catch on. This is all about iPhones. I didn't see it because, for some reason, nobody has had the balls to to say out loud what the problem is. I apologize for taking up so much of your time.

So please, do whatever it takes to get the fearsome giant to put a fucking USB C connector on your next phone. I don't blame or judge.

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Of course this is about Apple, even though it's not explicitly stated in the legislation. I doubt the law would exist, if it wasn't for Apple's crappy connector.
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: eugene on June 25, 2022, 03:16:59 am ---[...]
 for some reason, nobody has had the balls to to say out loud what the problem is [Apple] [...]

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There are so many fans of Apple that the discussion often degenerates to slanging matches even for totally reasonable criticism of their practices.

Let's not get started on the subject of planned obsolescence...   but Apple isn't the only big tech corporation that has been tempted by the forbidden fruit, one way or the other.

MadScientist:

--- Quote from: james_s on June 09, 2022, 06:55:26 am ---
--- Quote from: JPortici on June 09, 2022, 05:57:15 am ---And i understand how most users that has a certain flag can not like it, it's just not in their DNA
US: throw a bunch of standards and let the market - or rather the biggest corporation - decide
EU: pick a standard and mandate it - possibly not choosing the best standard
sure it's because i was born and raised in the EU but i prefer how we do things around here

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You have to understand that this country was founded by a bunch of people that escaped overbearing oppressive governments specifically to found a new nation based on freedom from this sort of thing, individual choice and minimal regulation. It's far from perfect but it's something a great many of us hold dear and a fundamental component of our culture. I *hate* being told what to do and dealing with regulations and mandates, it feels like being treated like a small child incapable of making my own choices and there are few things that I find more oppressive and frustrating. I guess maybe someone that had always lived under a government that controls so many aspects of their life wouldn't understand, I don't know. Even my own government feels rather oppressive and mired in rules and regulations these days that I almost wish there was somewhere else to go and get away from it. I understand the need for some rules for things like protecting the environment, rules are a necessary evil but they ARE evil and I hate them.

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And ended up creating yet another oppressive and over bearing government !!
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