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| Bud:
--- Quote from: Kyle_from_somewhere on June 26, 2022, 06:42:15 pm ---How do you put USB-C in upside down? --- End quote --- You are not going to believe but this does happen. |
| Kyle_from_somewhere:
--- Quote from: Tomorokoshi on June 26, 2022, 07:04:00 pm ---So if the EU can specify USB-C, what is to prevent China from specifying some other connector? The USA from specifying yet another? --- End quote --- There's nothing to prevent most things. There doesn't need to be, because of newton's first: shit doesn't move until you push it. --- Quote from: Tomorokoshi on June 26, 2022, 07:04:00 pm ---This requirement for USB-C is an entirely new avenue. --- End quote --- No it's not. regulations have mandated interoperability standards since forever. I would like to thank the totalitarian dictatorship of 1980s france for mandating that my television has a scart socket - it's a very useful thing to have. |
| eugene:
--- Quote from: madires on June 26, 2022, 06:56:08 pm --- --- Quote from: eugene on June 26, 2022, 06:05:23 pm ---But all of that is moot because whatever the law says, it's really about getting Apple to replace their proprietary connector with USB C. The goal is to achieve that by any means necessary. --- End quote --- That's a silly preconception as the new standard charging port isn't limited to mobile phones. --- End quote --- Apparently you missed the part that says "whatever the law says." Imagine a poll with two multiple choice questions: 1. Do think the law is a good idea? a. yes b. no c. don't care 2. Do you own an iPhone? a. yes b. no c. what's an iPhone Obviously I can't prove it without actually putting the poll to a large and appropriate sample of people, but my belief is that there would be a very large correlation between the people that answered a to the first question and the people that answered a to the second question. Whatever may or may not be written into the law today, I believe that the initial motivation for it was entirely, 100% due to the proprietary connector on iPhones. Moreover, the wide support that the law has received from the public comes mostly (but not entirely) from users of iPhones. Put another way, if Apple was already putting USB C connectors on their phones then nobody would have had any interest in proposing the law in the first place. Whatever verbiage it happens to contain today is a poor indicator of the original motivation or the public support for it. As I said, I can't prove it, but I do believe it. |
| Zero999:
I own an iPhone and whilst I would rather it have a standard USB connector, I don't care about the law. I'm no Apply fanboy. My phone is a hand me down. There's no point in trying to debate anything Apple with an Apple fanboy. |
| tooki:
--- Quote from: eugene on June 26, 2022, 06:05:23 pm ---If there's a desire to have a common power port then a circular barrel jack is far superior to any USB connector. Impossible to put in upside down, rugged, durable, lasts virtually forever. If you want a standard, then just pick one size. [I understand that it wouldn't allow negotiating for different standard voltages, but if a third terminal is available for analog feedback, then the supply could provide any DC voltage over some range./b] --- End quote --- That objection doesn’t make any sense. Analog feedback makes no sense at all, and a third wire could easily carry handshaking to negotiate a voltage, just like USB-PD. I think some laptops do that already. (For sure, I know many use a third wire to identify charger types, e.g. genuine or third party, wattage, etc.) |
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