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The EU is enforcing USB-C on portable devices
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TomKatt:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on June 08, 2022, 03:08:34 am ---I'm for standardization too, but not for politics meddling with much anything other than safety, so I have mixed feelings about this.

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My initial reaction was to agree with that sentiment, but I think more often than not manufacturers use profit margins to guide them instead of what is better for society.  It's a slippery slope, but I do believe there are times the govt needs to "persuade" change for the better.
madires:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 26, 2022, 09:49:16 pm ---There's no point in trying to debate anything Apple with an Apple fanboy.

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Most likely cognitive dissonance at work. >:D
tooki:

--- Quote from: Berni on June 27, 2022, 12:34:09 pm ---Where it gets useful is for docks that might need to do more than that. We already got to a point where tablets are becoming laptop replacements for some people. So that port then gets a different role. It connects to a docking station that gives you an extra monitor, wired ethernet, extra USB ports etc.. This is a job that USB-C was made for but Lightning just can't do. This is also likely the reason why the latest iPads dropped Lightning.

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The first iPad model with USB-C was the 2018 iPad Pro. USB-C was expressly to support faster peripherals, especially storage (but also things like pro audio/video interfaces), as well as allow faster charging, since the iPad Pros could take a while on Lightning.

Since then, most (but not all!) of the iPad product line has been migrated to USB-C.
tooki:

--- Quote from: madires on June 27, 2022, 03:51:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 26, 2022, 09:49:16 pm ---There's no point in trying to debate anything Apple with an Apple fanboy.

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Most likely cognitive dissonance at work. >:D

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The same is equally true of Apple haters, who cannot look past their prejudices, no matter what the facts of the situation are.
eugene:
My suggestion many posts back about using a barrel jack was somewhat sarcastic, or something, not sure what the right word is. But the basic point is this: If that goal is simply to decide on a common power port to use on all portable devices, then any USB port, in fact, just about any data port, is a poor choice. A common barrel jack is obviously superior from a mechanical and functional standpoint.

Oh wait, the USB C standard allows negotiation for multiple different voltages and max currents. Then I remembered a universal laptop power supply that I once owned. There was a selection of adapter tips that plugged into the end of the cord going to the laptop. Inside each adapter was (I assume) a pair of resistors that returned a reference voltage to the supply. This made it possible for the supply to provide any regulated voltage required in order to serve owners of laptops from different companies. So I tossed that out for everyone to chew on, and some of you did some chewing.

Obviously (I hope it's obvious) an analog feedback signal would not be a good solution moving forward, but it does highlight the fact that something as sophisticated (and fragile, and expensive) as USB C is not required if all you want is a common power port.

But, I also don't believe the goal is simply a common power port, so there you go.

EDIT: I do have serious concerns about the durability and lifetime of a USB C port when plugs are repeatedly inserted and removed, multiple times per day on the same device. The laptop I'm writing this on uses USB C for power, and it has generally been trouble free, but the simple fact is that the jack is a little more loose than it was when I bought the computer a year ago. The USB C power cable can often be seen hanging off the jack a little bit sideways. I push just push it back in. But, the fact is, the laptop has plenty of room for power jack intended just for power that would be far better suited to the job. This has nothing to do with laws. It's just an observation.
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