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SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: tooki on September 06, 2022, 04:57:41 pm ---[....] I think it’s entirely logical to block third party batteries.

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Noooooo, @Tooki!  :D

That is just creating a monopoly situation that guarantees high prices.   Imagine if you couldn't choose the tyres for your car, and you had to buy ones sold by the car manufacturer...   
themadhippy:

--- Quote ---and a bunch of small companies
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maybe to you,but flymo is a well  known brands of lawn mower  here ,ask us what a cub cadet is and i'd bet more replies would say a young boy in a green uniform rather than one of americas popular lawn mowers and husqvarna has been going nearly as long as the white man has been of stealing land  off indians

--- Quote ---that could not be bothered or don't have enough scale to make their own
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so how many companys build there products from the raw materials,instead of buying components from a company that specialises  in that part? do ford  make the chips in there ecu's
ataradov:

--- Quote from: themadhippy on September 07, 2022, 02:02:46 am ---so how many companys build there products from the raw materials,instead of buying components

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It is not about building from scratch, it is about business model. Large tool vendors make their money on batteries. Mandating some standard type of battery will force them to reconsider their business model. This may be for the best, hard to tell.

For me personally, I like the cheaper tools because I don't use them enough to kill the batteries.  I have Ryobi drill that I bought 10 years ago and it is still on the original battery. Same situation with printers. My $50 printer is still on the original cartridge. This one actually developed some minor vertical lines. But it lasted long enough that I'm sure Samsung lost money on me.

And from what I see the companies on the list are not professional tool makers. The market there may be different.
Black Phoenix:

--- Quote from: ataradov on September 07, 2022, 02:34:16 am ---And from what I see the companies on the list are not professional tool makers. The market there may be different.

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Well it's a start but still not enough. Wake me up when Makita, DeWalt, Hitachi, Hilti and Milwaukee are members.

Those are the ones who lock you in their ecosystem with their battery systems. Hilti now even have a new system of batteries - https://www.hilti.com/content/hilti/W1/US/en/company/news/press-releases/2022-nuron.html

TLDR - one type of battery for all their products and the batteries have telemetry integrated who tracks, and citing their website:


--- Quote --- Connected to the cloud for increased productivity

Nuron brings intelligence to the core of the platform – all tools generate data which is then stored on the Nuron batteries and sent securely to the cloud during every charge without any operator interaction. The data collected includes information such as tool usage, tool utilization, charging location and battery state-of-health. This information can then be used to alert individuals if action is needed immediately or can be accessed on-demand as required and is available on mobile and desktop via Hilti’s ON!Track software platform. Together with services like Hilti Fleet Management tool data can be used to reduce downtime and optimize tool cribs to boost customer productivity.
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They also said in a interview I saw that it helps regarding tools that are stolen from work sites, companies and vehicles. So let's give them even more control to decide when a battery is in need to be replaced because (said no one) the manufacturer knows the best for the customer...

Although as you said and correctly there are adapters available for most type of combinations.
tooki:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on September 06, 2022, 05:09:33 pm ---Counterfeit batteries is a straw man. If manufacturers were genuinely worried about being sued because the customer fitted fake batteries, then why are there still so many devices which run on alkaline cells? It's easy to prove the customer fitted third party batteries. A simple code printed on the OEM battery (this can be in a discrete place, in invisible ink) would prove that.

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When is the last time you heard about an alkaline battery turning into a flamethrower in someone’s pocket? The safety issue is specific to lithium ion batteries.

And yyyyeah, counterfeiters have been cloning batteries, including the authenticity holograms, for years. A simple printed code won’t do. Hence using authentication ICs.
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