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tooki:
Other than his mistaken claims of Apple “loving” proprietary tech in USB-C cables (which is categorically untrue; Apple doesn’t do anything proprietary with its USB-C interfaces or cables), I wholeheartedly agree with that video’s sentiments. There’s something to be said for mechanical keying of specific configurations…
Monkeh:

--- Quote from: tooki on November 10, 2022, 08:07:45 pm ---(which is categorically untrue; Apple doesn’t do anything proprietary with its USB-C interfaces or cables)

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Yet.
tooki:

--- Quote from: Monkeh on November 10, 2022, 11:07:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on November 10, 2022, 08:07:45 pm ---(which is categorically untrue; Apple doesn’t do anything proprietary with its USB-C interfaces or cables)

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Yet.

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What an idiotic argument. Apple has been using USB-C since 2017, always adhering to the latest version of the standard at the time of release.* Why would they start doing weird shenanigans now?

Apple has never been afraid to create a custom standard if existing ones don’t do what they want, but it’s not something they do gratuitously, contrary to the claims of the anti-Apple brigade, which likes to push narratives to make Apple look bad, wholly divorced from any factual basis.

It’s cheaper and easier to use standards when possible, and Apple knows this. That’s why Apple embraced USB back in 1998, ditching its old ports. Even before that, not everything was proprietary: Apple widely used PCI (Intel) and NuBus (Texas Instruments) expansion slots, Ethernet (Xerox et al), SCSI (Shugart), and PC-standard RAM modules. Mac serial ports used a different connnector, but supported RS-422 and RS-232 (with RS-422 being the preferred mode due to its much higher speeds).

Apple sometimes releases its designs to become industry standards, like with FireWire, mini-DisplayPort, and mDNS.

Sometimes, their efforts to create industry standards are scuttled by outside factors, like with FaceTime, which was supposed to go open, but then got saddled with lawsuits from patent holders claiming it violated their patents.

There was nothing comparable to Lightning when Lightning was released. Most phones then used micro-USB, which didn’t do what Apple wanted.



*I add this qualifier because of the 2017 12” MacBook, which was designed to the preliminary USB-PD standard that was the latest at the time. Unfortunately, when the final USB-PD standard was published, it actually changed some voltages, which is why the 12” MacBook, and the chargers Apple made for it, aren’t completely compliant with the final USB-PD standard. But it wasn’t gratuitous incompatibility, but a good-faith effort to follow the preliminary standard, which presumably hadn’t been expected to change so late in the development process.
Monkeh:

--- Quote from: tooki on November 12, 2022, 03:31:27 pm ---
--- Quote from: Monkeh on November 10, 2022, 11:07:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on November 10, 2022, 08:07:45 pm ---(which is categorically untrue; Apple doesn’t do anything proprietary with its USB-C interfaces or cables)

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Yet.

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What an idiotic argument. Apple has been using USB-C since 2017, always adhering to the latest version of the standard at the time of release.* Why would they start doing weird shenanigans now?

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It's not really an argument, I'm just poking fun at Apple. That and I'll never dismiss the possibility of any company, Apple or otherwise, choosing to take the wrong route in search of perceived profits - Dymo, anyone?
Halcyon:

--- Quote from: wraper on November 05, 2022, 04:35:05 pm ---

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I know this sounds petty, but I lost interest after he mixed up Gigabytes and Gigabits.
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