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| schmitt trigger:
--- Quote from: Berni on June 08, 2022, 07:18:58 am --- There was also the hilarious claim from the Australian prime minister: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2140747-laws-of-mathematics-dont-apply-here-says-australian-pm/ They ware pushing for companies running chat applications with end to end encryption to have to hand over chat logs to the authorities. Even after being explained to him why doing this is not technologically possible he said they should do it anyway. Since after all: "The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia" --- End quote --- Would this mean that the Universal Gravitational Law doesn’t apply either to Australia? Boy, I have to experience that myself. |
| tom66:
--- Quote from: m98 on September 15, 2023, 10:49:15 am --- --- Quote from: tom66 on September 15, 2023, 08:46:49 am ---The most baffling thing to me is that Apple ship the iPhone 15 in 2023 with USB 2.0. We have a few Samsung Galaxy S22 phones (pretty much direct Android competitors to iPhone 14) at work for testing, and these are all USB 3.x. --- End quote --- What is the use case of USB 3.x speed on a Smartphone? --- End quote --- The iPhone is capable of 4K60 recording. That's a lot of data to transfer off if you use USB 2.0. Most USB2.0 devices max out somewhere around 250-300Mbit/s real world transfer rates once overheads are included, whereas USB3.0 usually hits the flash memory read limit first. Also, with USB-C there are now USB3 accessories available, like an external flash drive, that would benefit from faster transfer speeds. If you fill up the 128GB onboard storage, USB2.0 would take over an hour to transfer. If we assume the internal flash can be read around 100MB/s (it's likely to be even faster), USB3 shortens that to a third. Edited: to correct silly error. |
| Veteran68:
--- Quote from: tom66 on September 15, 2023, 08:46:49 am ---The most baffling thing to me is that Apple ship the iPhone 15 in 2023 with USB 2.0. We have a few Samsung Galaxy S22 phones (pretty much direct Android competitors to iPhone 14) at work for testing, and these are all USB 3.x. --- End quote --- iPhone 15 Pro has USB 3. It's typical Apple to only include the more significant/newest features in the Pro line upon release, then the next year it will likely be included in the base line. I would expect most people who are serious about things like 4k60 streaming would be opting for the Pro models anyway. That said, I rarely use a USB connection to transfer anything from my phone, as I'm all-in with cloud services, so it's only a "meh" upgrade for me. |
| tom66:
--- Quote from: Veteran68 on September 15, 2023, 04:36:14 pm --- --- Quote from: tom66 on September 15, 2023, 08:46:49 am ---The most baffling thing to me is that Apple ship the iPhone 15 in 2023 with USB 2.0. We have a few Samsung Galaxy S22 phones (pretty much direct Android competitors to iPhone 14) at work for testing, and these are all USB 3.x. --- End quote --- iPhone 15 Pro has USB 3. It's typical Apple to only include the more significant/newest features in the Pro line upon release, then the next year it will likely be included in the base line. I would expect most people who are serious about things like 4k60 streaming would be opting for the Pro models anyway. That said, I rarely use a USB connection to transfer anything from my phone, as I'm all-in with cloud services, so it's only a "meh" upgrade for me. --- End quote --- Indeed, it's very Apple to do something like this, but for an $800+ smartphone it's quite a silly limitation IMO... given almost all of the competition does have USB3.0 and it's just a case of turning it on in software. Either way I don't care, I'm not buying an iPhone 15 any time soon. It's essentially the same phone as the 13 and 14 besides a few cosmetic and performance improvements. There's nothing game changing from Apple any more. I think the last game changing feature was Face ID and Touch ID before that. |
| switchabl:
The non-pro version seems to be based on a last generation SoC (A16) which may not support USB3. |
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