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The EU is enforcing USB-C on portable devices
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Veteran68:

--- Quote from: Veteran68 on September 15, 2023, 04:36:14 pm ---...so it's only a "meh" upgrade for me.

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I should clarify that I meant USB 3 was only a "meh" upgrade for me. As for the iPhone 15 itself, I'm definitely upgrading my 12 Pro Max to the 15 Pro Max (I completed my pre-order this morning). I normally upgrade every 2 years (every other generation) but was holding out for USB-C. I was disappointed when it didn't come with the 14, and decided to wait another year.


--- Quote from: switchabl on September 15, 2023, 05:28:58 pm ---The non-pro version seems to be based on a last generation SoC (A16) which may not support USB3.

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Yes, the non-Pro line is based on the A16 and I was thinking that may well be the reason.
tom66:

--- Quote from: switchabl on September 15, 2023, 05:28:58 pm ---The non-pro version seems to be based on a last generation SoC (A16) which may not support USB3.

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The iPad Pro 2018 had USB 3.0 on a type C connector.  It had an A12 chip.  It's possible that Apple deleted this function from later SoC, but given the A16 does support DisplayPort 4K HDR over USB (as another poster points out) it at least has the phy blocks to do USB3 signalling... so IMO it's probably a software lockout or possibly an eFuse blown on the die.
switchabl:
AFAIK DP alternate mode does require a USB PD phy for negotiation but no SuperSpeed phy. The USB part is really just a fancy mux.

EDIT: You also need at least USB LS on D+/D- as a fallback (billboard device) to be compliant but I guess it would technically work without even this.
PlainName:
Just to butt in, anyone using the a lovely Android and who can't be faffed with cables could do worse than install WiFi File Transfer from the Play store. Super easy and quick just point a browser at your phone and do the biz like that.
Veteran68:

--- Quote from: PlainName on September 15, 2023, 07:25:47 pm ---Just to butt in, anyone using the a lovely Android and who can't be faffed with cables could do worse than install WiFi File Transfer from the Play store. Super easy and quick just point a browser at your phone and do the biz like that.

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I guess I should point out that as a long-time iPhone user, when I *do* need to do some local transfer (vs cloud), I typically do so over Wifi. I bought iMazing which is far more useful than iTunes for things like that. Between using iMazing to backup or transfer media, and using Calibre Companion over WiFi to transfer eBooks, I rarely have a need for USB transfer.
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