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The Glorious Return of a Humble Car Feature

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Psi:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on April 29, 2023, 05:21:08 am ---
--- Quote from: Psi on April 29, 2023, 05:07:25 am ---A touchscreen is nice for some car things, but yeah, buttons for all core functionality.
There is something magical about a car with switches and buttons everywhere that all illuminate at night, like the cockpit of an airplane.

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Perhaps it's just where I live, but I find most car dashboards/lights are waaaaay too bright. I usually turn them right down to minimum.

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yep, dash brightness control is a must.
And it has to control every led in every button/switch/display/dash cluster etc..

Halcyon:

--- Quote from: JPortici on April 29, 2023, 05:25:09 am ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on April 29, 2023, 04:10:35 am --- I can attest to the pain of trying to get parts from overseas.

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No, it's not that. Replacement parts weren't available, period. There is still a one year wait time for a control unit replacement (any control unit) and headlights as they can't even fit the new cars with them.
Here in europe, the normal wait time for replacement goes from same day (smaller parts, belts, harnesses, things like that) to 5-10 days for complete engines, control units (also depending on the amount of paperwork required. Some replacements must be done at the dealer because e.g.: synchronization of the network that has to be authorized and that takes more time because of bureocracy)

If parts were available you would have had your car back within a month

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Most of the parts were coming from Sweden and those that weren't in stock (like wiring harnesses) were made-to-order (apparently).


--- Quote from: james_s on April 29, 2023, 05:30:28 am ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on April 29, 2023, 04:10:35 am ---As someone who was "recently" involved in a crash in a European car (someone hit me up the rear at 40-50 km/hr), I can attest to the pain of trying to get parts from overseas.

The insurer (in their wisdom) decided to repair, instead of replace. The vehicle was insured for an agreed value of $63k and was less than 12 months old at the time of the crash, which meant it would have been covered under the insurers "new for old replacement" clause. Except that they didn't deem the vehicle as a total write-off (which they probably should have).

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A car is never quite the same after a collision like that. Body shops are usually able to make it look good for a while, but give it 10 years or so and something will start to rust where welding burned galvanizing off, and often you'll find something isn't quite perfectly aligned, and the paint often isn't quite as good as the original.

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Perhaps, but I generally don't keep cars that long. But I challenge anyone who can spot this repair job by just looking at the car (including underneath). I have to admit, the repairer did a phenomenal job (and it seems their workmanship is well known to the area). I have a pretty good eye for colour and even I can't tell the difference between the replacement panels and the originals. According to the repairer, white/pearl white is the easiest colour to match. As you start getting into the more obscure colours, they become noticeable.

tom66:
I have an ID.3, and a lot of the controls in the vehicle are touchscreen or cap-touch based.

It's the worst thing about the car to be honest. The cruise control settings work well enough because they're within muscle memory with your hands on the wheel, but the rest of the controls require taking your eyes off the road to see where you're touching.

Would be glad to have physical controls back.

Stray Electron:

--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on April 29, 2023, 05:01:49 am ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on April 29, 2023, 04:10:35 am ---
--- Quote from: wilfred on April 28, 2023, 01:57:26 pm ---I particularly don't like headlights that cost a thousand dollars to repair/replace when I can just buy a bulb for  $50. It makes insurance premiums that much higher too when even a minor accident can irreparably damage one.

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As someone who was "recently" involved in a crash in a European car (someone hit me up the rear at 40-50 km/hr), I can attest to the pain of trying to get parts from overseas.

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No excuse not to have at least 3rd party insurance in this day and age.

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   Keep this in mind, OVER 50% of the drivers in Florida have NO insurance despite the fact that it's been required by the state since about 1969. 

Stray Electron:
  You guys will appreciate this:  I'm so fed up with modern cars that I am very serious considering buying a 1955 car as my next car. Here is the complete wiring diagram  https://ttypes.org/mg-td-tf-wiring-diagram/ of that car (2nd diagram).

  How the Hell did we get from this to the insane levels of complexities that we have today and why do people put up with the costs and complexity,  and the extremely poor dealer and manufacturer support, of the modern cars!?

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