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| tom66:
--- Quote from: Psi on April 29, 2023, 10:01:05 pm ---err, you must be thinking of a different country. We have 3rd party but you pay for it. Not part of fuel tax. 3rd party cover is usually around NZ$200-$350 a year where as full cover is around NZ$600-$1500 a year --- End quote --- Seems to be injury-only third party cover, must have misread that it covers everything. https://www.aa.co.nz/insurance/car-and-vehicle-insurance/third-party-car-insurance/third-party-insurance/ So I guess you're still liable for property damage, but at least the biggest cost of accidents (which is usually injury and injury compensation) is covered. |
| BradC:
--- Quote from: coppice on April 29, 2023, 06:51:55 pm ---Most of the complaints people make about touchscreens in cars are really about pathetic UI design. The sizes of touch areas are often too small for someone trying to hit them while driving. --- End quote --- No, the complaint is regardless of the UI design with a touch screen, you *need* to look at it to target. There's no such need with hard buttons and knobs. Touch screens are incompatible with motor memory and tactile cues, so you need to take your eyes off the road to operate one. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: BradC on April 30, 2023, 12:22:36 pm --- --- Quote from: coppice on April 29, 2023, 06:51:55 pm ---Most of the complaints people make about touchscreens in cars are really about pathetic UI design. The sizes of touch areas are often too small for someone trying to hit them while driving. --- End quote --- No, the complaint is regardless of the UI design with a touch screen, you *need* to look at it to target. There's no such need with hard buttons and knobs. Touch screens are incompatible with motor memory and tactile cues, so you need to take your eyes off the road to operate one. --- End quote --- They also usually don't work if you're wearing gloves, which is not uncommon in colder climates, and many of them don't work well with my bare fingers even, I don't know why. The main thing though that should have made them illegal to have in a car is as you mention, the fact that you HAVE to take your eyes off the road to operate it. There is simply no safe way to interact with a touchscreen while driving. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: james_s on April 30, 2023, 04:19:19 pm ---They also usually don't work if you're wearing gloves, which is not uncommon in colder climates, and many of them don't work well with my bare fingers even, I don't know why. The main thing though that should have made them illegal to have in a car is as you mention, the fact that you HAVE to take your eyes off the road to operate it. There is simply no safe way to interact with a touchscreen while driving. --- End quote --- The ones that use IR beams work OK with gloves. Maybe that's why Volvos work that way. I need to look away for the mechanical switches on a dashboard. The only ones that work well by feel are the ones on the steering wheel and stalks, that you use a lot and get really used to. Everything is mysteriously located in a rental car (i.e. one you are not used to), even how to turn the damned headlights on. How come such basic controls as that haven't settled into fairly standard locations like indicators have? |
| Ranayna:
I very much hope that this trend will not be limited to expensive and very cheap cars. I want buttons and a key starter (no keyless go), but at the same time also would want something like Apple Car Play. All steeringwheel controls (so blinker, highbeam, wiper, cruise control) and at least also the climate control and radio volume i want mechanical. On the other hand i don't care about the main light switch for example, since that would be always on anyway. Im not in the market for a car at the moment, but i wonder if there will be something like this available in the next couple of years without costing an arm and a leg. |
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