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The Glorious Return of a Humble Car Feature

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coppercone2:
so easy to have a accident even trying to change the radio. bring back the seek button

james_s:

--- Quote from: coppice on April 30, 2023, 09:20:09 pm ---I need to look away for the mechanical switches on a dashboard. The only ones that work well by feel are the ones on the steering wheel and stalks, that you use a lot and get really used to.

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I don't. My car has a mix of rocker switches, rotary knobs and sliders, they are laid out logically and I know where all of them are. I operate them without looking down easily, similar to how I type without taking my eyes off the screen because I know where all the keys are and muscle memory takes care of the rest. Even having not been in my car in several days I know that to the right of the steering column is the ignition switch, followed by the sunroof switch, then the rear defogger switch, then the heater fan knob, then a slider to select the vents and below that another slider to adjust the temperature.

james_s:

--- Quote from: Ranayna on April 30, 2023, 10:11:00 pm ---I very much hope that this trend will not be limited to expensive and very cheap cars.

I want buttons and a key starter (no keyless go), but at the same time also would want something like Apple Car Play.
All steeringwheel controls (so blinker, highbeam, wiper, cruise control) and at least also the climate control and radio volume i want mechanical. On the other hand i don't care about the main light switch for example, since that would be always on anyway.

Im not in the market for a car at the moment, but i wonder if there will be something like this available in the next couple of years without costing an arm and a leg.

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The DIN slot was invented for a very good reason and it made this easy. Want Car Play? Buy a head unit that offers it. A few years down the road when they've released a new version that doesn't work with your old hardware just buy a new head unit. It was great, far superior to these integrated infotainment systems they all have now.

vk6zgo:

--- Quote from: tom66 on April 30, 2023, 08:55:22 am ---
--- Quote from: Psi on April 29, 2023, 10:01:05 pm ---err, you must be thinking of a different country.  We have 3rd party but you pay for it. Not part of fuel tax.
3rd party cover is usually around NZ$200-$350 a year
where as full cover is around NZ$600-$1500 a year

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Seems to be injury-only third party cover, must have misread that it covers everything.
https://www.aa.co.nz/insurance/car-and-vehicle-insurance/third-party-car-insurance/third-party-insurance/

So I guess you're still liable for property damage, but at least the biggest cost of accidents (which is usually injury and injury compensation) is covered.

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That is similar to Western Australia, where the third party injury insurance is integral with the vehicle license.(I think it is the only State where this is so).
If you want "third party property" insurance as well, you have to arrange that yourself with an insurance company.
Third party property was a popular policy for people with old, cheap, cars back in the day, but premiums have drifted up to nearly the same as comprehensive insurance, so most people opt for the better protection with the latter.

Black Phoenix:

--- Quote from: james_s on May 01, 2023, 12:15:48 am ---
--- Quote from: Ranayna on April 30, 2023, 10:11:00 pm ---I very much hope that this trend will not be limited to expensive and very cheap cars.

I want buttons and a key starter (no keyless go), but at the same time also would want something like Apple Car Play.
All steeringwheel controls (so blinker, highbeam, wiper, cruise control) and at least also the climate control and radio volume i want mechanical. On the other hand i don't care about the main light switch for example, since that would be always on anyway.

Im not in the market for a car at the moment, but i wonder if there will be something like this available in the next couple of years without costing an arm and a leg.

--- End quote ---

The DIN slot was invented for a very good reason and it made this easy. Want Car Play? Buy a head unit that offers it. A few years down the road when they've released a new version that doesn't work with your old hardware just buy a new head unit. It was great, far superior to these integrated infotainment systems they all have now.

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That's fine and dandy but manufacturers prefer to have their own head units, who don't use a DIN Slot, have controls on the steering (that normally you need a extra loom to make it kinda compatible with a different head unit if you have the chance) and an extra screen that loses his functionality if you change the head unit.

That if your central console have a DIN Slot behind and there is a front bezel with the hole.

Most of them is just a specific bezel/faschia that doesn't have a replacement and you need to hack it to install your own unit.

Good that old cars were like that, most new ones you are out of luck.

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