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| langwadt:
--- Quote from: hans on August 24, 2022, 07:02:53 am --- --- Quote from: Kjelt on August 23, 2022, 09:38:45 pm ---For me genius is a born gift to excel in some domain. Where others need 10000 hours of study and work to accomplish a certain level the genius will do this in less than 1000 hours and could do it at a younger age. In the current society having such a born gift can even work against you since the people around you where you have to interact with every day are unable to follow your train of thought, your interests etc. which results in isolation from the group. Luckily there now special schools but still my guess is that 80+ percent of born geniusses never will pop up, be it from a lack of exposure to the field where they could excel in (say a family where no-one ever played a musical instrument so a genius musical gifted child will not be exposed to this possibility) or where they will act normal to fit in. --- End quote --- Yes it's a really unfortunate thing. The "gifted" children are set up for a wonderful career in whatever domain they pursue. But IQ is only half predictor of success, the other is hard work. And if they are never challenged at a young age, then they are likely to struggle and drop out at end of secondary school or college. --- End quote --- years ago there was a story about the highest scoring mensa member in Denmark, he worked as a postman .. |
| fourfathom:
--- Quote from: MikeK on August 27, 2022, 11:41:02 pm ---The underlying assertion, I think, is what is known as the Galileo defense used by crackpot pseudoscientists: "Galileo was persecuted and I'm also being persecuted...therefore I'm just like Galileo (and, hence, I have something of value)." --- End quote --- Are you seeing this here? I'm sure not. --- Quote from: MikeK on August 27, 2022, 11:41:02 pm ---Get an EE degree if you want to do something in EE. --- End quote --- Excellent advice. But there *are* engineers who worked their way up the ladder, without a degree, into a successful and rewarding career. I'm one. Yes, it's probably harder to do this now than it was for me when I started as a technician in the 1970's but it's still possible, especially in software. Stories like those in the OP are valuable reminders that we should consider all factors when evaluating engineers, and people in general. But get the degree if you can. |
| Ground_Loop:
--- Quote from: ataradov on August 23, 2022, 05:12:50 am ---Horowitz got a Ph.D in physics from Harvard. Why would he need to take an EE class? None of those people are geniuses, they were just good at what they were doing. There are a ton of people like this. --- End quote --- I've always maintained that that the best engineers are also physicists. |
| fourfathom:
--- Quote from: Ground_Loop on August 29, 2022, 12:30:39 am ---I've always maintained that that the best engineers are also physicists. --- End quote --- And I've always felt that there are different kinds of engineer. Some are great with the theory, and others are great with overall concept and structure. In other words, some see trees and others see forests. I don't have a degree and recognize my weakness on the theoretical side (but at times I've used more theory than some degreed engineers I've worked with.) But I've got broad experience and exposure in many areas, so I can sometimes find a solution space more readily than the deep-theory engineers. On many jobs you really want big-picture as well as fine-detail types. I suppose the best engineer would combine both, and that's something we can all aspire to. |
| Kjelt:
--- Quote from: Ground_Loop on August 29, 2022, 12:30:39 am ---I've always maintained that that the best engineers are also physicists. --- End quote --- I will never forget the 8500 lines of c code I got from an older PhD to integrate in the total machine software. About 200+ variables , 100 (unneeded to be) global variables and the name of the longest was three letters, most were two. Some lines were over 150 characters long. "Know your formula's he said" :palm: |
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