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| MadScientist:
--- Quote from: BrianHG on January 15, 2023, 11:52:02 am ---This is the current cleanliness of EVs: It depends where on earth you live and how much you drive before it overtakes the conventional ICE solution. As for practicality, if you own your own home or have a guaranteed parking spot where you can plug it in every night, if most of your travel is under the range of you EV's battery with occasional longer trips, then it is a very practical solution in countries with a good support infrastructure. Also, you will save a shit load on your petrol bill. Anything short of my above paragraph, for now, just go for an ICE car. --- End quote --- I know several bev owners that merely use public fast chargers and neither isec domestic charging or slow chargers at all nor have several dedicated parking spots either In most cases BEVs make better purchase than Ice. Cheaper to run and service , better driving environment etc |
| BrianHG:
--- Quote from: MadScientist on January 15, 2023, 10:30:38 pm --- --- Quote from: BrianHG on January 15, 2023, 11:52:02 am ---This is the current cleanliness of EVs: It depends where on earth you live and how much you drive before it overtakes the conventional ICE solution. As for practicality, if you own your own home or have a guaranteed parking spot where you can plug it in every night, if most of your travel is under the range of you EV's battery with occasional longer trips, then it is a very practical solution in countries with a good support infrastructure. Also, you will save a shit load on your petrol bill. Anything short of my above paragraph, for now, just go for an ICE car. --- End quote --- I know several bev owners that merely use public fast chargers and neither isec domestic charging or slow chargers at all nor have several dedicated parking spots either In most cases BEVs make better purchase than Ice. Cheaper to run and service , better driving environment etc --- End quote --- Not to mention that here in Quebec, fast chargers charge so much for electricity that it costs less for petrol per mile/kilometer. And even petrol prices here in Canada is among the highest in North America, so that's saying something. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: themadhippy on January 15, 2023, 12:22:03 am --- --- Quote --- can't imagine ever going back to an electric stove --- End quote --- if some of your bureaucrats get there way you may have to --- End quote --- I think that plan will be wildly unpopular, everyone that is even remotely serious about cooking uses a gas stove. I'll put a 5 gallon propane tank in the cabinet next to the stove before I'll get an electric stove. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: MadScientist on January 15, 2023, 10:30:38 pm ---I know several bev owners that merely use public fast chargers and neither isec domestic charging or slow chargers at all nor have several dedicated parking spots either In most cases BEVs make better purchase than Ice. Cheaper to run and service , better driving environment etc --- End quote --- When I was driving my dad's Tesla Y before we sold it I worked out that it cost about $10 to fill with 300 miles range, that's not bad at all, a comparable gasoline SUV would have cost around $80 at the time. Just for fun I calculated the fuel economy it would get if I charged it with my gasoline powered Honda EU2000i generator and I think it was around 18 mpg which is impressive when you consider that's a primitive air cooled engine with a carburetor and a ridiculous number of energy conversion stages. The service thing is something my friends with EVs have been talking about lately. No oil changes, no coolant changes, no leaky heater cores, water pumps to replace, heater or radiator hoses to split, no radiator to leak. You can go tens of thousands of miles without any sort of maintenance at all. As someone who always seems to end up working on my car when it's cold and pissing down rain there is an appeal to that. I just don't drive enough anymore for it to make sense, and I like my car. |
| Marco:
--- Quote from: nctnico on January 15, 2023, 09:26:58 pm ---I'm not sure whether that would work as well as expected. Ground has a poor heat conductance so you'd multiple boorholes (wells) and when the system goes off-balance you may overheat or exhaust a well. --- End quote --- That's just a question of engineering, take worst case and add safety margin. Seasonal gas reserves can run out too, in theory. Might be able to use an uninsulated coolant loop just below the pavement surface as a radiator to fix seasonal imbalance, otherwise a large forced air one. |
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