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The Hyperloop: BUSTED
nctnico:
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--- Quote from: ogden on January 19, 2018, 10:57:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: mtdoc on January 19, 2018, 10:06:46 pm ---I’m happy to be proven wrong, but I believe it’s just a handfull of small companies and some engineering student teams.
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I am afraid you are indeed wrong. Virgin Hyperloop One shall not be considered as small company. Nobody knows tells how much Branson invested, but it shall be huge pile of money.
https://hyperloop-one.com/blog/introducing-virgin-hyperloop-one
Quite recently they got new "injection" to burn in form of 50$ mil:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/18/virgin-hyperloop-one-raises-more-money-and-makes-richard-branson-chair.html
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That money will never see any return on investment, it will just vanish.
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Spin-off is the keyword you are missing here. I did some projects in the past which didn't pan out themselves but the knowledge & IP gained turned out to be very profitable. And big corporations have enough money to add patents into the mix. You can't predict the future but sitting on your thumbs is not going to be profitable for sure.
ogden:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on January 19, 2018, 11:16:34 pm ---You can argue that uBeam and Solar Roadways are all "long sighted" projects too, good luck with that.
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Why don't you add water powered cars and cold fusion projects to the list? :-DD What I am trying to say - uBeam/FreakingRoads to Hyperloop is apples to orange comparison. Yes, they can struggle to get safety approval for human transportation for many years to come, but to say that Hyperloop is utterly failure or scam is.. how to say.. uneducated imprudence.
[edit] "uneducated imprudence" was the best I got: google.translate ;)
mtdoc:
--- Quote from: ogden on January 19, 2018, 10:57:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: mtdoc on January 19, 2018, 10:06:46 pm ---I’m happy to be proven wrong, but I believe it’s just a handfull of small companies and some engineering student teams.
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I am afraid you are indeed wrong. Virgin Hyperloop One shall not be considered as small company. Nobody knows tells how much Branson invested, but it shall be huge pile of money.
https://hyperloop-one.com/blog/introducing-virgin-hyperloop-one
Quite recently they got new "injection" to burn in form of 50$ mil:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/18/virgin-hyperloop-one-raises-more-money-and-makes-richard-branson-chair.html
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Um, you left out the main point of my quote about there not being government subsidies, which your links show no evidence of that I see - only that Richard Branson has invested a large amount of money in one of the companies. Whether that makes them a large company now is beside the point . I don’t think it does, but that has nothing to do with the point I was making about government subsidies.
--- Quote from: EEVblog on January 19, 2018, 11:13:54 pm ---That money will never see any return on investment, it will just vanish.
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Perhaps - that is one opinion. Of course Branson losing his money if it occurs, does not mean the hyperloop fails and certainly doesn’t mean it is not an achievable engineering challenge.
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ogden:
--- Quote from: mtdoc on January 20, 2018, 12:03:45 am ---but that has nothing to do with the point I was making about government subsidies.
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I did not give chit about government subsidies. I selectively picked only "I believe it’s just a handfull of small companies and some engineering student teams" part which I did mention by quoting you.
mtdoc:
--- Quote from: ogden on January 20, 2018, 12:08:37 am ---I selectively picked only "I believe it’s just a handfull of small companies and some engineering student teams"
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Exactly.
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