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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #550 on: November 08, 2019, 07:00:20 pm »
I read Ashlee Vance's book about Musk. I take my hat off..
 

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #551 on: November 08, 2019, 09:42:01 pm »
I am certainly no Elon Musk fan, but it can't be denied that the success of Paypal, and then Tesla, are largely due to him.
No Sir, you got that wrong, the success of Paypal is due to ebay.

No, sir... you have that bass-ackwards. The only reason fleaBay hasn't gone swirling down the drain years ago is due to the thin veneer of respectability and trustworthiness that the PayPal name brought to their steaming cesspool of fraud and thievery. PayPal was a force in international banking and commerce long before Musk bought them; their business model brought secure international banking and purchasing to everyday people, not just the wealthy. For many people, PayPal is still the only banking option available.

eBay TRIED to do the PayPal thing on their own. People stayed away in droves; founding member eBayers like myself told them in no uncertain terms that if they tried to force us to use THEIR payment services we'd close our accounts. Literally thousands and thousands of eMail and support messages. We didn't (and most of us still don't) trust eBay as far as we could sling a piano.

That said... eBay and PayPal NEEDED each other. eBay needed the boost to their reputation; PayPal was overextended internationally and needed the huge cash influx that eBay represented to stay solvent while they completed their expansion. Musk's genius contribution was in SEEING how much these two arch-rivals needed each other, and fixing PayPal's obstinate board so that a deal with eBay could be made.

For most PayPal cardholders, eBay is literally the smallest portion of their PayPal spending. It is everywhere ELSE that PayPal is accepted and still provides their buyer protection that everybody relies on; and without them forcing the change, all the major CC companies would STILL be selling and charging extra for similar purchase protection.

As for HyperLoop... yeah, sure. About the same time as we resolve the technology for the Space Elevator. Oh, and resolve the moronic quibbling over pieces of paper and lines on a map... and basic elements like stupidity and greed...  :palm:

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #552 on: November 08, 2019, 10:36:25 pm »
The timeline may well be different your side of the pond, but over here...

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For most PayPal cardholders, eBay is literally the smallest portion of their PayPal spending.

That's true for me now, but it started completely the other way. Paypal was as trustworthy (in the sense of, would you give them access to your bank account) as Facebook Libra is now. That is, no way. It was a nothing and not missed. I had several cash cards for Internet spending, which made sure that no online store had access to my unlimited funds.

But then I was using Ebay a fair bit, and PayPal was a lot simpler to use for payment on there. Took a while but eventually (and encouraged by Ebay) all my Ebay payments were via PayPal. But that's all. After that, and quite a lot after, since I had a PayPal account I started using it for online checkout at other places. Again, took quite a while to work up the trust and not that many big-name stores took it, but over time it crept in more and more. Ebay buying PayPal accelerated the process, and now it's my preferred payment processor online.

I doubt if I would be using PayPal so much if it weren't for Ebay, so in that sense Ebay carried PayPal forward. Now, PayPal doesn't need Ebay. Such is life :)
 

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #553 on: November 28, 2019, 08:41:01 pm »


OK, I know that's not applicable (each person has an allocated space) but it shows the way they want to take things.

I've been on flights that were literally 17 minutes from takeoff to landing, so...  :-//

(eg. Valencia to Ibiza in Spain)
 

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #554 on: November 29, 2019, 03:14:58 am »


OK, I know that's not applicable (each person has an allocated space) but it shows the way they want to take things.

I've been on flights that were literally 17 minutes from takeoff to landing, so...  :-//

(eg. Valencia to Ibiza in Spain)

Lol that would be an odd flight.   Seems kinda wasteful to even have that route haha.

"Please keep seatbelts on until we are at cruising altitude at which point the seat belt sign will turn off"
*ding*
"We are now starting to descend and preparing to land, please make sure your seat belt is fastened and your tray is in the upright position"
 

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #555 on: November 29, 2019, 08:15:21 am »
Quote from: fungus
I've been on flights that were literally 17 minutes from takeoff to landing, so...  :-//

"Please keep seatbelts on until we are at cruising altitude at which point the seat belt sign will turn off"
*ding*
"We are now starting to descend and preparing to land, please make sure your seat belt is fastened and your tray is in the upright position"

They start the final approach as soon as the thing gets off the ground. I'm surprised they even bother to retract the wheels.

(done that route three times now)
 

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #556 on: November 29, 2019, 09:35:21 am »
So you do the check-in for 1 or 2 hours and then also do the deboarding for another 30 Minutes?
Or are the quicker check-ins?
It has been some time since I last took a flight, but I remember having to wait quite some time before boarding, during boarding and also deboarding.

How much time does it take to go by Ferry?  :o
 

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #557 on: November 29, 2019, 10:17:27 am »
So you do the check-in for 1 or 2 hours and then also do the deboarding for another 30 Minutes?

Yep. Boarding takes longer than the flight.

How much time does it take to go by Ferry?  :o

2 hours, I think. I'm not sure if it's cheaper though, Ferries are for people who want to take their car with them.
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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #558 on: November 29, 2019, 10:28:26 am »
Well the alternative is 4 hours by boat so it's not really that crazy
 

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #559 on: November 29, 2019, 12:39:33 pm »
Quote from: fungus
I've been on flights that were literally 17 minutes from takeoff to landing, so...  :-//

"Please keep seatbelts on until we are at cruising altitude at which point the seat belt sign will turn off"
*ding*
"We are now starting to descend and preparing to land, please make sure your seat belt is fastened and your tray is in the upright position"

They start the final approach as soon as the thing gets off the ground. I'm surprised they even bother to retract the wheels.

(done that route three times now)

Perth, Western Australia to Rottnest Island beats that at 12 minutes for the landplane & 15 mins for the seaplane.
There is also a helicopter service, but they don't quote trip duration.
 

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #560 on: December 03, 2019, 07:36:22 pm »


OK, I know that's not applicable (each person has an allocated space) but it shows the way they want to take things.

I've been on flights that were literally 17 minutes from takeoff to landing, so...  :-//

(eg. Valencia to Ibiza in Spain)

Pffff  VLC-IBZ  108 miles; that's long-haul. 
I've been on jet operated flights of 39 miles
 

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #561 on: December 03, 2019, 08:21:57 pm »
Pffff  VLC-IBZ  108 miles; that's long-haul. 
I've been on jet operated flights of 39 miles

Any shorter than that and may as well be shot out of a canon!  :-DD

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #562 on: December 03, 2019, 08:31:36 pm »
Pffff  VLC-IBZ  108 miles; that's long-haul. 
I've been on jet operated flights of 39 miles

Any shorter than that and may as well be shot out of a canon!  :-DD

Pretty much shot out of a canon.  It hasn't been operated by a jet in a long time (mid 80s), but back then was often DC9s (AC) and 737s (PWA). 
Now it's pretty much all DHC8-400s (AC, WS)

.. Air Canada's regional carriers also operate a shorter 33 mile route (YVR-YCD).  Such are the joys of living on an island


 

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Re: The Hyperloop: BUSTED
« Reply #563 on: December 04, 2019, 02:52:37 am »
It appeared to me that China Eastern has a regular late night flight between Shanghai Hongqiao and Shanghai Pudong. It is not publicly available in ticketing systems, but if you ask the China Eastern manager at Hongqiao nicely he may sell you a ticket on that flight.

That is more like a regular technical movement of planes given a scheduled flight number. However since it is a late night flight happens after the Metro closed, it is useful as a transfer link between a late night Hongqiao arrival and an early morning Pudong departure. It is also priced below late night taxi fare between the two airports.
 


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