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Offline EEVblog

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2016, 10:41:54 am »
It's a feature, not a bug.
PayPal.me is supposed to show your real name (or for a business, the actual business name) plus your real picture if any.  That's how your friends know they're sending money to the right account.

But is it possible to remain anonymous if you so desire? i.e. have a displayed handle that doesn't identify you, and have your private real name in the back end of the system for legal reason etc?

Public figures such as myself have to be careful with this not to have any system reveal my home address for example, but the home address is a legal requirement to sign up for the system.
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2016, 10:44:47 am »
Funny we were having a conversation similar to this today at work.  Our hospital ER installed a phone before you go into the triage room, so when they call your number you have to pickup the phone, and then they start asking you questions such as why you're there.  So you're basically talking about your medical issues, in front of everybody, on this phone.   Seems like a privacy issue to me.
If someone ends up in ER, privacy should be his least concern. On the other hand, letting all possible medical care personnel know his situation is probably at higher priority.

Not in the case of the US I believe were the emergency wards of hospitals (because of their non-universal health care) is used to treat everything from a runny nose to a heart attack.
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2016, 11:02:42 am »
Dave assuming you're setup as a sole trader under your own name, perhaps you can register a DBA business name (e.g., "eevblog", if not already) and Paypal should be able to set up your account under the DBA name and business address.  If your Paypal account is currently a "personal" account then they should be able to upgrade it to a business account.

In any case paypal.me should not display your full address, only registered name and city.
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2016, 11:56:27 am »
As paypal is primary used as an alternative for wire transfer for me, so it is okay to show my real name on it, it is still much safer than wire transfer, in which the other side will know both your real name and account. As other said, open an business account would allow you to hide your real name and use your company name as legal entity instead.

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2016, 01:41:47 pm »
Dave assuming you're setup as a sole trader under your own name, perhaps you can register a DBA business name (e.g., "eevblog", if not already) and Paypal should be able to set up your account under the DBA name and business address.  If your Paypal account is currently a "personal" account then they should be able to upgrade it to a business account.
In any case paypal.me should not display your full address, only registered name and city.

I don't have any problem, I'm just mentioning that some people need to be careful about such things and I've noticed many platforms that have automatically displayed my address or phone number or whatever when I didn't want them to.
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2016, 01:48:44 pm »
Not in the case of the US I believe were the emergency wards of hospitals (because of their non-universal health care) is used to treat everything from a runny nose to a heart attack.

That happens mainly because of our out of control illegal immigration problem. Conservative estimates put the number at 11.5 million. Half the population of Australia. Crazy, isn't it? You guys don't extend healthcare to everyone that just waltzes into the country either. You just don't have anywhere near as many of them as we do.
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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2016, 02:11:30 pm »
Anyhow, for what it's worth if someone wants to know where you live, they will know where you live. It's pretty much as simple as that. I don't advertise my address and generally use a P.O. box for business correspondence, but it's also not that big of a deal if anyone knows.

re: real name for PayPal
Seems a little weird to give someone money and not even know their real name. What are you hiding from? Then again, I always think it's weird people don't use their real name on forums. Whatever.
 
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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2016, 02:12:58 pm »
What's real, my full legal name or the name I prefer to be known by?
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2016, 02:14:48 pm »
What's real, my full legal name or the name I prefer to be known by?

Whatever name I need to give the police when you stiff me!  :)
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2016, 12:02:47 am »
PayPal is one of those necessary evils. I occasionally sell stuff on ebay and it forces you to accept PayPal payments as a method of receiving money, which is fine for me, at least I'm then protected against scammers by the PayPal seller protection policy.

That said, PayPal only have minimal details about me on their system in order to receive money from other people, the rest of the information they requested is either fictitious or not provided at all. I've refused to send copies of my driving licence to Paypal, so my account is in "limited" status (and has been for years) but it still allows me to transfer money into my bank account. In fact, the only thing I can't do while my account is restricted is close the account. Who cares?

They don't even have my "proper" bank details. My bank allows me to set up sub-accounts which give me a new and unique external bank account number but it's linked to my primary account. Paypal only have details of this sub-account which I only use for Paypal. If there is ever an issue, I can simply close the sub-account rendering that account number invalid, without affecting my everyday banking account.

Stuff them, PayPal don't need to know anything more about me. Not my date of birth, not where I live. Just my name (which is different to my legal name), dedicated PayPal bank account number and BSB.

I suggest everyone who uses ebay and PayPal in Australia registers for an Australia Post Parcel Collect address. It doesn't cost anything and keeps your physical address private. You just get assigned a Parcel Collect number along with the address of the Post Office, so when you stuff arrives, you get notified and you go and collect it. For example, my Parcel Collect address (and the one you provide when you order things) might be:

Parcel Collect 12345
181 Castlereagh Street
SYDNEY NSW 2000
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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2016, 01:42:07 am »
Thing is you are not yet in the ER, just in the waiting room, which is full of all the walk in's, and not actually in earshot of any medical people.

Best would be for them to go find an old telephone booth ( remember those) which is padded with acoustic lining, which will attenuate the conversation and improve the intelligibility of the call on both sides. That would be a good compromise between having a private phone booth and no booth at all, providing both a place for the phone and a shelf to place paperwork on to complete it during the call.

Yep exactly, there should be a separate room that you go in, talk on the phone, then another door to go in the actual medical section.  I think this started around the Ebola time just as a precaution so it was a really quick fix to just slap a phone on the wall and have it programmed to auto dial an extension.   

Back to the website related privacy stuff, another issue that I personally overlooked when I registered my own domain is that your address and all your info ends up in the whois info.  You can either pay extra for security, or get a PO box.   I did the PO box thing for a while but they did not offer auto pay, so it was a pain having to make sure to manually go pay for it. So I gave that up and ended up just swallowing the cost of whois privacy on all my domains.
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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2016, 03:02:25 am »
So I gave that up and ended up just swallowing the cost of whois privacy on all my domains.

Or just do what I do and not supply any information at all in my domains whois information. At the end of the day, the registrar has my contact details if they need to get in touch with me. Saves having to pay for service you can just do for free yourself.

For example:
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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2016, 04:08:36 am »
That isn't allowed for all TLDs. Some (like .com) require you to have a valid address (which might not be your own address). Others (like .eu I think) require that your primary business address be used.
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2016, 04:27:53 am »
That isn't allowed for all TLDs. Some (like .com) require you to have a valid address (which might not be your own address). Others (like .eu I think) require that your primary business address be used.

Never been a drama for me in the past and I've registered .com, .net and other TLDs. My registrar couldn't care less as long as the bill gets paid (and they are one of the bigger ones). 10+ years and no one has said a thing.
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2016, 11:23:34 am »
That isn't allowed for all TLDs. Some (like .com) require you to have a valid address (which might not be your own address). Others (like .eu I think) require that your primary business address be used.

Never been a drama for me in the past and I've registered .com, .net and other TLDs. My registrar couldn't care less as long as the bill gets paid (and they are one of the bigger ones). 10+ years and no one has said a thing.

Yes, but someone could make your life miserable if they wanted. They can report you to your registrar and they would force you to change it; if you don't they'll suspend your domain until you do.

I ended up just setting up a P.O. Box for my domains and stuff.
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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2016, 12:04:43 pm »
My ones have my name, but the address and contact details is that of my ISP.

If you are using a registrar they often put thier contact details in those fields, saves having to update when it expires and they auto renew on your behalf. If you do not pay they then just keep it, and make it difficult to transfer it to another registrar.
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2016, 09:33:45 pm »
That isn't allowed for all TLDs. Some (like .com) require you to have a valid address (which might not be your own address). Others (like .eu I think) require that your primary business address be used.

Never been a drama for me in the past and I've registered .com, .net and other TLDs. My registrar couldn't care less as long as the bill gets paid (and they are one of the bigger ones). 10+ years and no one has said a thing.

Yes, but someone could make your life miserable if they wanted. They can report you to your registrar and they would force you to change it; if you don't they'll suspend your domain until you do.

I ended up just setting up a P.O. Box for my domains and stuff.

Meh, if that happens, I'll deal with it then. I'm not running a business or anything critical off them so suspension isn't such a big deal.
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2019, 08:25:41 pm »
Here is an example of an anonymous Paypal.me website:
https://www.paypal.me/marvmarv2016
You'll will only get the real name and e-mail, when you actually do a transaction. But you stay anonymous for all those who refuse to send you money ;-)
Don't know how to set it up though.
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2019, 10:50:53 pm »
Doesn't the main PayPal website do this as well?
i.e. when setting up web donation forms etc.
 

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Re: Warning - PayPal.me exposes your real name, cannot delete
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2019, 01:26:08 am »
I don't really care about the name thing, but I may have two paypal accounts, the second is some random characters. So it would be easy enough to use that one publicly then transfer to the other as needed.

Here is an example of an anonymous Paypal.me website:
https://www.paypal.me/marvmarv2016
You'll will only get the real name and e-mail, when you actually do a transaction. But you stay anonymous for all those who refuse to send you money ;-)
Don't know how to set it up though.

They've either set their name or business name as "marvmarv", presumably the second if paypal won't let you have a one word name?
 


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