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SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on July 04, 2020, 06:53:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 04, 2020, 05:42:59 pm ---LineageOS could be a decent start but still needs to be "degoogled" as it uses some Google components.

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Which is as simple as not installing the "gapps" package.

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Yes, actually AFAIK any Android distribution not provided by Google must install Google components separately for license reasons, so when dealing with open-source Android-based OSs, not installing them is always possible.

As stated here: https://wiki.lineageos.org/gapps.html
they can't even come preinstalled.

Bassman59:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on July 04, 2020, 05:22:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 04, 2020, 05:14:05 pm ---You're not actively protesting anything, only fooling yourself and possibly making yourself more visible by also creating additional relevant traffic. If you want to try doing something: block ads, scripts and advertising domains. Block telemetry whenever possible. Use privacy respecting browsers and anonymous tabs and counter fingerprinting. Accept that using some products and services is no longer viable.
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What's the downside of using a low power device, completely separate from your main PC, to create fake traffic that uses up resources on the services you protest?
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Running your “low-power device .. to create fake traffic” costs you a lot more than it costs them.

You pay more than they do for electricity. Your internet service costs A LOT more than theirs.

NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: Bassman59 on July 04, 2020, 09:45:19 pm ---Running your “low-power device .. to create fake traffic” costs you a lot more than it costs them.

You pay more than they do for electricity. Your internet service costs A LOT more than theirs.

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I'd be interested to know how it would be possible to return a page of search results with not much more processing required as generating pseudorandom strings and submitting them. Keep in mind the queries are just picking a few dictionary words and stringing them together - making them look realistic is no longer the goal. It doesn't take that many words to increase the number of possible combinations to the point where caching is no longer feasible. And because you're just submitting strings and downloading text, you can run a lot of parallel instances on a little bandwidth.

There's a figure out there that running about 4 searches per minute would use the equivalent of keeping a 60W bulb on in the data center. Not sure if it's accurate, but even if the real value is an order of magnitude lower, it's not hard to do 4 search queries per minute with a low power processor that uses less than 6W. (In reality, a Raspberry Pi can do a lot more than that even without optimization, and then optimization can really shift things in your favor.)

Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: Bassman59 on July 04, 2020, 09:45:19 pm ---Running your “low-power device .. to create fake traffic” costs you a lot more than it costs them.

You pay more than they do for electricity. Your internet service costs A LOT more than theirs.

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It's probably best to stop feeding this non discussion. NiHoaMike keeps ignoring any input or rebuttals, only to circle back to his original mistakes and naive views. I'm done playing chess with the pigeon.

NiHaoMike:
Doesn't change the fact that generating a simple string of random words is fundamentally a much simpler operation than finding what entries in a very big database most closely match what is being described by those words. This doesn't even involve the data analysis.

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