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| gnavigator1007:
--- Quote from: GeorgeOfTheJungle on July 05, 2020, 12:09:31 am --- Try Brave: --- End quote --- Didn't Brave get caught hijacking links a little bit ago? |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on July 04, 2020, 11:38:08 pm ---Doesn't change the fact that generating a simple string of random words is fundamentally a much simpler operation than finding what entries in a very big database most closely match what is being described by those words. This doesn't even involve the data analysis. --- End quote --- Please read back. Endlessly repeating your ignorance only serves to embarrass. |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: joeqsmith on June 20, 2020, 05:47:46 pm --- :-DD Years ago I wrote how I was using Wireshark and saw were even pressing a number key on the MS calculator causes the OS to send the data up to MS. I'm still using a WRT router to block all MS traffic. To install the BLE software for Dave's 121GW, I had to pull it from the store. I let my guard down just long enough for them to push a new update which had additional IPs that had to be accounted for. I have not changed anything after that. 10 still tries to send data non-stop but at least the PC is usable. I had been using an old version of Firefox but recently was forced to "upgrade". I pitched FF and tried Opera for a day, until I learned it was sold off to China. Then I tried Vivaldi and ran into problems with it that I wasn't smart enough to sort out. So now it's back to FF and setting the admin rights to block its updates. Too bad really as I like Vivaldi. --- End quote --- What's wrong with the modern versions of Firefox? |
| NiHaoMike:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 05, 2020, 02:28:09 pm ---Please read back. Endlessly repeating your ignorance only serves to embarrass. --- End quote --- You still have not explained how it's possible to do a search on a similar compute power level as a very simple random phrase generator. Try programming such a random phrase generator on even something as limited as the original Arduino and you'll see the phrases appear so fast it's just a blur. You keep saying that it would be trivial to distinguish from real data but that's not the goal. If it causes them to spend resources generating pages of search results, that achieves the desired effect. But now I have thought of a way to protest that uses little or no resources on the client side once set up: make a bunch of throwaway Gmail accounts, then sign those up to as many spam lists as you can find. I suppose to enhance the effect, you could have a script occasionally log in and reply to a few spam messages, which will give the spammers the illusion that there is someone looking at the address and to send more spam that way. Now Google and the spammers waste each other's resources... |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on July 05, 2020, 03:20:54 pm ---You still have not explained how it's possible to do a search on a similar compute power level as a very simple random phrase generator. Try programming such a random phrase generator on even something as limited as the original Arduino and you'll see the phrases appear so fast it's just a blur. You keep saying that it would be trivial to distinguish from real data but that's not the goal. If it causes them to spend resources generating pages of search results, that achieves the desired effect. But now I have thought of a way to protest that uses little or no resources on the client side once set up: make a bunch of throwaway Gmail accounts, then sign those up to as many spam lists as you can find. I suppose to enhance the effect, you could have a script occasionally log in and reply to a few spam messages, which will give the spammers the illusion that there is someone looking at the address and to send more spam that way. Now Google and the spammers waste each other's resources... --- End quote --- Please stop embarrassing yourself. You're still proposing to gum up the operation of the people with a massive and streamlined infrastructure to deal with huge amounts of data by making a few extra requests. The only reason you think this may make any kind of difference is because you have no idea what you're talking about, refuse to listen to any input or rebutts and won't look into matters even at a cursory level. This "discussion" is like explaining a 5 year old why world hunger can't be solved by mailing groceries to Africa, not even I if we all do it. I hardly claim to be an expert myself but you really need a grasp of the basics to participate in a meaningful discussion. --- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 04, 2020, 03:52:41 pm ---What don't you understand about it being a billion dollar industry making a living out of extracting meaningful data out of massive amounts of noisy data? What numbers did you run that make you believe your little addition to the pile makes any kind of difference? At this point it feels like explaining my 5 year old nephew why his perpetual motion machine isn't going to work. :palm: --- End quote --- |
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