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| NiHaoMike:
The only part left to make it fail is if doing the search actually takes much less resources than I expect. I'm interested to know exactly how that could be the case, since complete caching is already ruled out. Are they using ASICs or something that really are that efficient at searching? |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: joeqsmith on July 05, 2020, 08:09:04 pm --- --- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 05, 2020, 02:29:31 pm --- --- Quote from: joeqsmith on June 20, 2020, 05:47:46 pm --- :-DD Years ago I wrote how I was using Wireshark and saw were even pressing a number key on the MS calculator causes the OS to send the data up to MS. I'm still using a WRT router to block all MS traffic. To install the BLE software for Dave's 121GW, I had to pull it from the store. I let my guard down just long enough for them to push a new update which had additional IPs that had to be accounted for. I have not changed anything after that. 10 still tries to send data non-stop but at least the PC is usable. I had been using an old version of Firefox but recently was forced to "upgrade". I pitched FF and tried Opera for a day, until I learned it was sold off to China. Then I tried Vivaldi and ran into problems with it that I wasn't smart enough to sort out. So now it's back to FF and setting the admin rights to block its updates. Too bad really as I like Vivaldi. --- End quote --- What's wrong with the modern versions of Firefox? --- End quote --- Like MS, once they started to force updates, my perception is that they made me less productive. For me, I want my software like like any other tool to be reliable and repeatable. In the case of MS, they blue screened my PC a few times and the endless full installs became a real pain. I have PC connected to our TV and had left it open for all updates. I may only have 30 minutes to watch something and many times, this was spent doing updates. When I go to turn off the PC, the last thing I want to do is wait a half hour while it updates to make sure they didn't fuck it up. FF with their constant patches at one point changed the way the data was presented on my tablet which I run with a touch screen. That one change to the menus was pretty much the point where I rolled back to an early version that did not require the updates. This worked fine until recently. I now have the new version (locked) but I would have switched to Vivaldi out of frustration, had it worked out of the box. --- End quote --- I had a cheapo little Win 8 tablet that literally got bricked by a Windows 8 update - it never recovered! I spent a couple of hours trying to bring it back, but it ended up being recycled. |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: joeqsmith on July 05, 2020, 10:49:12 pm ---Pretty much sums up what I was seeing. https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/33633/vivaldi-gets-stuck-on-some-pages-very-slow-like-frozen/82?lang=en-GB&page=5 Looks like its a problem with Chrome. I have never tried using it. https://www.fileinspect.com/blog/fix-slow-connection-caused-by-the-establishing-secure-connection/ Looks like it's been a problem for a very long time. Firefox stays for now. --- End quote --- I just tried the "problem sites" linked in the first one - didn't see an issue using 3.1.1929.34 (Stable channel) (64-bit). |
| joeqsmith:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 05, 2020, 11:24:29 pm --- --- Quote from: joeqsmith on July 05, 2020, 10:49:12 pm ---Pretty much sums up what I was seeing. https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/33633/vivaldi-gets-stuck-on-some-pages-very-slow-like-frozen/82?lang=en-GB&page=5 Looks like its a problem with Chrome. I have never tried using it. https://www.fileinspect.com/blog/fix-slow-connection-caused-by-the-establishing-secure-connection/ Looks like it's been a problem for a very long time. Firefox stays for now. --- End quote --- I just tried the "problem sites" linked in the first one - didn't see an issue using 3.1.1929.34 (Stable channel) (64-bit). --- End quote --- The last update I tried was: Vivaldi 3.1.1929.34 (Stable channel) (64-bit) Revision a3849a97b5fbcc3f22dc813c14e999c7bf13b4f5 I'm not surprised it works for you as if it were very common problem no one would use it. But again, that doesn't help sorting out the problem. I thought about opening the network to all traffic but my better judgement steps in. Another option may be to run WS and see if they hit any IPs that I have locked. I would expect if they had specific requirements that it would have been documented. It's possible that it's something in the OS but it's odd that only Vivaldi seemed to have a problem. ********************* I reinstalled it, and set my homepage to Amazon (known problem site). The problem persists. There was an update from the last time I had tried it, so I went ahead and installed it. Vivaldi 3.1.1929.45 (Stable channel) (64-bit) Revision 1eb3263017ed42270818939fbff241845938a81f The problem still persists. "Establishing secure connection..." "This site can't be reached" "Too long to respond" |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: joeqsmith on July 06, 2020, 12:07:36 am --- --- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 05, 2020, 11:24:29 pm --- --- Quote from: joeqsmith on July 05, 2020, 10:49:12 pm ---Pretty much sums up what I was seeing. https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/33633/vivaldi-gets-stuck-on-some-pages-very-slow-like-frozen/82?lang=en-GB&page=5 Looks like its a problem with Chrome. I have never tried using it. https://www.fileinspect.com/blog/fix-slow-connection-caused-by-the-establishing-secure-connection/ Looks like it's been a problem for a very long time. Firefox stays for now. --- End quote --- I just tried the "problem sites" linked in the first one - didn't see an issue using 3.1.1929.34 (Stable channel) (64-bit). --- End quote --- The last update I tried was: Vivaldi 3.1.1929.34 (Stable channel) (64-bit) Revision a3849a97b5fbcc3f22dc813c14e999c7bf13b4f5 I'm not surprised it works for you as if it were very common problem no one would use it. But again, that doesn't help sorting out the problem. I thought about opening the network to all traffic but my better judgement steps in. Another option may be to run WS and see if they hit any IPs that I have locked. I would expect if they had specific requirements that it would have been documented. It's possible that it's something in the OS but it's odd that only Vivaldi seemed to have a problem. ********************* I reinstalled it, and set my homepage to Amazon (known problem site). The problem persists. There was an update from the last time I had tried it, so I went ahead and installed it. Vivaldi 3.1.1929.45 (Stable channel) (64-bit) Revision 1eb3263017ed42270818939fbff241845938a81f The problem still persists. "Establishing secure connection..." "This site can't be reached" "Too long to respond" --- End quote --- I've got the network clamped down reasonably tight, also using DNS over HTTPS to avoid the local cable company throwing ads into random browser sessions... (b@stards...) |
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